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October 22nd 04, 08:27 PM

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Hi Art,

Ok, I'm always open minded to learn
something new...

Wow,,,...... there are not many people around who could say that !.
Since 99.999% of things presented as new are incorrect most experts
have determined that the odds favor them if they label EVERYTHING
new as in error. If something comes along that is really new they always
have the comment ' I knew about that a long while ago" to fall back on.

Hi Art,

Anyone who believes they know it all,
has much to learn :-)

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The program shows that the normal 2 element is not the optimum
in that a polygon of vectors beats a triangle of vectors.
At the same time with added elements you get diminishing returns in std and
conventional forms.
The program showed that 1 to 1.5 dbi was available over the standard
2 element on the same length boom.if one could overcome mechanical
restraints.
(I was comparing to a Beasely example of what gain could be attained for two
elements on a 7 foot boom)
Now that is not the end of the experiment as I cannot verify the accuracy of
the program,
because I did not write it, and I certainly cannot say that my modelling
aproach is
without error since that is what many 'experts' point to if they don't like
the results.
It was for that reason I asked if any similar data had been made available
for boom length
by reputable programmers and antenna 'experts' for comparison purposes ., If
these initial
results were quoted as accurrate there would be howls from all the resident
antenna ' experts"
and I would immediately be placed in the six foot hole that they have been
trying to put
you in for the last eight years

Art

I get the impression that what you are doing
is placing any number of elements on a .1
lambda boomlength, in order to determine if the
close proximity EM interactions produce more
gain than just the standard 2 elements would
on that same boomlength.

In the optimization process, some of the
resulting element diameters are quite small.

You're asking if anyone else has looked into
this, and if any results have been published.

Is this a correct assessment so far?

73 de Chuck, WA7RAI