I apologize if my response seemed argumentative. It wasn't intended that 
way. Certainly, sin^2(wt) has the same shape as the power waveform I 
derived -- the only difference is its fixed D.C. term. And I certainly 
agree that letting delta t approaching zero doesn't make any function of 
t become zero at that point. And just as the analysis I've presented is 
in your first year college electronics book, so is the point about delta 
t in everyone's high school or first semester college calculus book. But 
it's evident that some number of participants in this thread have either 
forgotten, never seen, or never understood those basic principles. And 
quite a few people either don't have any textbooks, don't understand 
them, or are unwilling to open and read them. Hence the postings 
containing information that you or I could find in moments. 
 
Roy Lewallen, W7EL 
 
Jim Kelley wrote: 
 
 You seem to be looking for an argument any way you can, Roy. ;-) 
 Sin^2(wt)/2 is the general form of any equation with the shape you 
 described in your previous post.  Furthermore, instantaneous power can 
 be evaluated at any time t, irrespective of relative phase.  The point 
 is simply that instantaneous power isn't necessarily zero as a result of 
 delta t's approaching zero. 
 
 
Given that v = V * sin(wt + phiv) 
            i = I * sin(wt + phii) 
 
Then p = v * i = VI * sin(wt + phiv) * sin(wt + phii) 
 
The product of the sines can be transformed via a simple trig identity 
to give 
 
   p = VI * 1/2[cos(phiv - phii) - cos(2wt + phiv + phii)] 
 
The first term in the brackets is D.C. -- it's time-independent. The 
second term is a pure sine wave. So the result is a pure sine wave with 
a D.C. offset. 
 
I've described the meaning and significance of the power waveform in at 
least one earlier posting on this newsgroup. If anyone is interested who 
can't find it on Google, I'll look it up and post the subject and date. 
 
 
 Yes.  It's also in my first year college electronics book. 
 
 Thanks and 73, 
 
 AC6XG 
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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