"Noon-Air" wrote in message
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"K5IN" wrote in message
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Yes, and we all learned to walk before we ran? Riding a horse is
still
an approved method of transport the last time I looked. What's to say
that
running isn't a approved method of transport too except for those of
that
are too lazy to do it. CW maybe antiquated but it still serves a
purpose,
if only to motivate the lazy into doing something to gain an end and for
that reason it should be condemned? I think not.

Calculators: they should outlaw the ability to hand write long division
or
multiplication? we could go on forever in this way couldn't we. I
normally
don't respond to these kind of inflammatory statements but this one was
one
I had to write back to as it was so out of bounds. I did it and am of
the
opinion even the most lazy can learn 5 words per minute cw.

I still use an old mechanical calculator.....its called a slide rule, and
yes I got my General Class License before the no-code novice was in
existance.

"Hamguy" wrote in message
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Just because my Great Grandfather had to 'crank start' his car, we
should
ALL have to learn how to do it prior to driving. And his wife had to
use
a
'crank style' telephone, therefore we ALL should have to master that
technology PRIOR to using a cell-phone just because they did.
Additionally,
we should ALL have to learn the computer language known as 'Basic' or
'Fortran' PRIOR to using a PC because I and so many others had to
learn
it.
And EVERYONE should be required to learn an antiquated mode known as
CW
before they get on HF because some 18th century guy invented it.
Either
catch-up with the times, or get the HELL out of the way! Like it or
not,
CW is TOAST!


I will go so far to accept the argument against 13/20 WPM code, some are too
lazy to get to that point and yes, SOME did have a hell of a time. But 5
WPM? COME ON. That is child's play. I've seen children learn it with little
problem. I WILL disagree with the "musical ear" theory - that they can pick
it up sooner. I know many musicians who couldn't do it any sooner. BUT with
about a half hour a day OR even just 15 minutes and depending on your time
spent per day, about 2 weeks tops, you can be at 5 WPM. For Christ's sakes,
you studied that long to get your drivers license. Wasn't it worth it? CODE
CAN BE USEFUL. I can think of many scenarios here to insert to show proof,
but it would take too much space. But I'll give one quick example. Surely a
lot of you heard of the Que Creek miners who were trapped for 3 days in PA.
Had one of those guys known CW, they could have relayed even at 5 WPM, much
valuable information. They did relay 9 taps to indicate 9 miners - however,
that is all they could get out of it. It didn't mean they were all alive or
in what condition. It wouldn't hurt to learn it. Most of us use to as a
child, just screwing around. TRY IT! Even if you don't want to go to a
stuffy class room, so be it. There are good tapes and even if you don't want
to invest in those, you can still learn it if you follow the tips offered in
most books. NOT USING DOTS/DASHES. You can still learn the characters
yourself in 2 weeks maybe sooner. Hell, in a couple days, you can start
forming words. Do about 3-5 characters a lesson. Don't choke yourself.
Relax, have fun with it. You'll be amazed how fast you catch on. G.W.