Cecil,

Fine.

My method solves the problem. Your method leads to endless threads on RRAA.

Have it your way.

73,
Gene
W4SZ

Cecil Moore wrote:

Gene Fuller wrote:

Q: Where are the missing joules?

A: They are associated with the large standing wave supported by the
mismatched terminations of your transmission line.


The "large standing wave" is associated with a an EM forward wave
traveling at the speed of light superposed with an EM reflected
wave traveling at the speed of light. Please give us an example
of an EM standing wave that is not composed of superposed EM waves
traveling in opposite directions at the speed of light.

What you seem to be saying is that two similar vehicles traveling
in opposite directions at the same speed don't possess any net
energy. Try standing between them when they crash and get back
to us.

As I have pointed out previously, standing waves are not inert. The
shape of the wave does not travel down the line, but the fields are
changing, and the charges are moving. Within each loop of the standing
wave the stored energy simply oscillates between magnetic energy when
the current is high and electrostatic energy when the voltage is high.
Very basic stuff.


Very magic stuff. EM waves simply cannot slosh around side-to-side
in a transmission line. EM waves must move at the speed of light or
else the theory of relativity is wrong. You are mentally lumping
things together in your mind when they are not lumpable together in
reality, i.e. your thoughts don't match reality.

The only time two EM waves traveling in opposite directions interact
is at an impedance discontinuity. All other interaction exists only
in your mind, not in reality. In a constant Z0 environment, EM waves
traveling in different directions pass like ships in the night.

The problem in your analysis is the initial axiom that RF waves always
move. This is simply incorrect, and it leads to the dilemma you face.


Please give me an example of just one photon that doesn't move at
the speed of light. You will have proven the theory of relativity to
be incorrect.

And as many people have pointed out, always add the voltages and
currents first and only consider power at the very end of the analysis.


Please don't pass yourself off as an expert on a subject where your
only recommendation is not to think about the subject. It reminds me
of the priests who put Galileo under house arrest.
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73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp