"K7ITM"  wrote in message 
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 Indeed, as Win says, you can get some signal out of a diode detector 
 even for very low input levels.  With fairly simple home-brew 
 techniques but a lot of attention to the details of leakage currents 
 and op amp offset voltages, I'm able to detect RF signals down to a 
 very few tens of microvolts.  That's using either a zero-bias Schottky 
 detector diode such as the Agilent HSMS-2860, or an old germanium point 
 contact diode.  At very low signal levels, the optimum load resistance 
 is quite high.  (See Agilent detector diode ap notes for details.) 
 Things are actually easier if you're only interested in the modulation 
 component of an AM signal, and not in trying to detect the carrier 
 level, since the offsets aren't particularly important for AC signals. 
 A JFET audio amplifier, or even a carefully-designed bipolar amplifier, 
 can give you a very low noise figure for the  high source resistance 
 that the diode detector running at low input levels gives you. 
 
 There are tricks you can play to make a receiver that works from the 
 power received by the antenna.  If you live near a transmitter that's 
 putting out significant power in your direction, you may be able to set 
 up a rectifier for that received power and use it to run a micro-power 
 amplifier following the detector for the station you wish to receive. 
 If you want to hunt for weak stations, you'll need a carefully designed 
 and built RF input tank/filter circuit.  At night, especially, it's 
 possible to listen to stations quite a ways away using no active 
 components in the RF path before the detector. 
 
 Cheers, 
 Tom 
 
10's of uV. Egad!. Wish I had your patience!. Built a feedback linearised RF 
probe head last year, using a couple of dual BAT85 SM packages in its tip. 
They were used as voltage doublers working into 10Mohms. I tried really, 
really hard, (well, about an hour) to see  a mV of RF i/p but random DC 
shifts, thermocouple effects and second order temperature drifting called a 
halt to the project. Wish I'd thought about these things before starting :-( 
regards 
john 
 
 
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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