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Old February 19th 05, 06:02 PM
Jack Painter
 
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"Cecil Moore" wrote

Jack Painter wrote:
"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
How do you feel about the sacking of Constantinople?


"the sacking"? 1204 or 1453?


The 1204 sacking of the Christian city by Christian
Crusaders during the Fourth Crusade.

"Eventually, the crusaders were victorious, and the citizens of the
city, strangely, at least to western eyes, welcomed them into the city
as usurpers, not as conquerors. The crusaders did not see it this way,
and they inflicted a horrible and savage sacking on Constantinople for
three days, during which many ancient works of art were stolen or
destroyed."

How does one defend those Christian acts?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp



Sympathizers of islam? (greek v latin *). Selected dates:

626: Siege of Constantinople by Persians and Avars
674-78: Siege of Constantinople by Arabs
717-18: Second siege of Constantinople by Arabs
1054: Schism between Eastern (Greek) and Western (Latin) Churches *
1097: First crusade
1147: Second Crusade. Normans capture Corfu, Corinth and Thebes
1182: Massacre of Latins in Constantinople *
1204: Capture of Constantinople by Fourth Crusade and establishment of Latin
Empire *
1261: Recapture of Constantinople by Nicaean force and end of Latin Empire
1397-1402: Siege of Constantinople by Sultan Bajezid
1422: Murad besieges Constantinople
1453: Turks take Constantinople on May 29.

How do the battles to contain muslims then differ from now?

Islam and the Theology of Power
A Muslim scholar looks at Islamism
http://www.islamfortoday.com/elfadl01.htm

El Fadl says that Islamism is at its core a,
.... supremacist puritanism that compensates for feelings of defeat,
disempowerment and alienation with a distinct sense of self-righteous
arrogance vis-à-vis the nondescript "other" -- whether the other is the
West, non-believers in general or even Muslims of a different sect and
Muslim women. In this sense, it is accurate to describe this widespread
modern trend as supremacist, for it sees the world from the perspective of
stations of merit and extreme polarization.

Read the whole thing. It's eye opening.

73,
Jack Painter
Virginia Beach, Virginia