RadioBanter - View Single Post - FCC Morse, restructuring proposals could hit the street by mid-year

March 7th 05, 06:14 AM

wrote:

From: Dave Heil , another poor baby
outraged and can't take it anymore shouted into his keyboard on Sun,
Mar 6 2005 1:17 pm:

Do you shout into your keyboard, Len? I've been using mine to type.
I suppose you play the piano by blowing into the little hole in the
back.

, picturing another wearing invisible robes,
wrote:

Dave Heil, wearing his invisible royal robes as Archbishop of
the Church of St. Hiram, turned livid with apoplexy and blurted
out the following personal anguish on

Does it please you to think of me wearing something invisible, Len?

Tsk. From the old folk fable of "The Emperor's New Clothes."

But does it please of you to think of me in that way?

The emperor (that's you)...

I'm not an emperor, Len.

...got talked into some expensive NEW
clothes (which didn't exist)...

I don't have any new clothes which don't exist, Len. All my new clothes
are plainly visible.

...and in vanity insisted on wearing
them in public to show off his finery.

I normally wear my clothing in public. Hereabouts, it is required to
wear clothing in public. Don't they require clothing out there?

Self-delusion. So YOU.

I agree that you are delusional. So I what?

Tsk. NO ONE can tell big badass Dave what to do! :-)

Can anyone tell you what to do, little wizened Leonard?

Big badass Dave thinks he can. :-)

"Little?!?" "Wizened?!?"

"Big badassed Dave"?

Tsk. Another PCTA Double Standard displayed for all to see.

Where? You reaped what you sowed.

I don't belong to the Waffen SS, Leonid. First it is invisible robes
and now, make believe uniforms.

The Waffen SS never existed? The Holocaust never existed?

Only you or "bb" could read "make believe uniforms" and understand that
I'd written something about the Waffen SS or Holocaust not existing.

Tsk, big badass dave wants to act just like an SS man,
complete with "show your papers!" orders and other
typical bullying tactics.

Which papers were you asked to show? It couldn't have been an amateur
radio license. You don't have one.

Hissies? No, I simply pointed out that you continue to do that which
you accuse others of doing. You do it frequently.

Tsk, tsk. You do it to others and bitch and whine when someone
does it right back on you! Poor baby.

You do it to nearly everyone here, Leonard. Poor baby.

Does it somehow bother you that I'm a Vietnam combat veteran?

"Combat?!?" Ho ho! :-)

Yes, combat. Hooooooooo. :-)

Were you a combat veteran, Len? Hoooooo :-)

You made the statement to the FCC. The Commission has taken no steps
to
implement your idea. It likely never will. Common sense prevails.

Tsk. FCC took no steps to implement what the ARRL wanted.
"Common sense prevails!"

The FCC still has a 5 wpm code test in place. There is still no minimum
age limit for entry into amateur radio. Common sense prevailed. Ho Ho.

Would you like to be reminded of what you wrote in the wake of the
heat
you took over the issue?

If you want to **** off others with many and varied Google quotes,
go right ahead. [you'd be wasting your time...and others' time]

I don't think other are bothered at all, Len. Those who don't want to
read it won't. Some will read it and be entertained at your expense.
I won't be wasting my time. My time is mine to spend as I please.

Tsk. I took no "heat" on that single small part of my Comment
for nearly a year after the FCC filed it.

No matter when it was brought up, you took heat for it.

Then it was brought up
in an effort to attack me personally...which is the standard mode
of PCTA extras' so-called "debate."

That's the standard mode of your debate too. It was brought up only
because you wrote it to the FCC. Nobody agreed with you here.
Apparently no one at the FCC did either.

PCTA extras in here don't recognize reality or
the real differences between right and wrong...anything
said against any PCTA extra is autormatically a "lie."

Well, a lie is certainly a lie. You've lied.

Nope.

Yep.

PCTA extras do the "1984" thing with "Truthspeak,"
turning around Right and Wrong to suit their own
brainwashing.

You're tap dancing again. You wrote what you wrote. Your submission to
the FCC is a matter of public record. What you've written of it here is
archived.

You RULE amateur radio.
Those who RULE need not have any precedent for
their statements. [they are "precedent for life?"]

That's funny. I don't recall ever making a comment to the effect that
I
rule amateur radio. Can you come up with it from an archive?

You RULE by forbidding open discussion on amateur regulation
issues with the usual bullying tactics against NCTAs. Plain.
No "archives" need be quoted.

How have you been prevented from discussing anything here. Come to
think of it, when have you discussed much of anything here?

You RULE based on the delusion of "seniority/tenure" in
amateur radio, as if those four decades of keeping your
ham license had some regulatory impact.

It is no delusion that I have 41 years of experience in amateur radio to
your 0 years of experience in amateur radio. The Commission said that
it wanted to see a consensus among amateur radio ops on the morse
testing issue. You aren't a part of amateur radio.

Doesn't work
that way, senor, amateur radio is a hobby, not a job, not
a guild, not an association. Never was except in the
minds of a few.

Yes, hobby or avocation, it is one in which you play no part.

The FCC doesn't require any Commissioners or staff to
hold amateur radio licenses in order for them to REGULATE
ALL of amateur radio law.

It still hasn't sunk in. The FCC staffers are paid to regulate amateur
radio. You aren't with the FCC. Licensed amateurs are participants in
this avocation. You are not a participant in amateur radio.

You don't regulate. You don't participate. You have the right to
comment to the FCC. They aren't permitted to publicy ridicule you.
You've commented. You may also comment here. We aren't bound by the no
ridicule rule. We may laugh, criticize, ridicule or argue. I've chosen
to do some of each. That is my right.

You are NOT an FCC Commissioner. You are NOT an FCC
staffer.

No, I'm a participant. I have the license which says so.

You ARE a big loudmouth.

I'm typing.

This isn't a commercial radio newsgroup.

True...it's a BLOG for PCTA extras to vent their upset... :-)

No, wizened little gent, this is an amateur radio newsgroup. :-) :-)

I've had a long career IN radio-electronics
beginning in radio in early 1953

How nice for you.

Yes. it was and continues to be nice! :-)

Still profitable. Interesting, fascinating as well!

Wonderful.

Nope that wasn't a straight answer. When is the last time you ever
admitted to any wrongdoing in here?

According to newsgroup RULEZ (written by PCTA extras)
it was the very last posting I made...ANY posting. :-)

ALL postings, in fact. According to those RULEZ,
NO "unlicensed" (in the amateur radio service) poster has
"any business saying anything about amateur radio!" :-)

Aren't you able to provide a direct answer to a direct question?

No straight answer here. When was the last time you admitted to any
wrongdoing here?

According to newsgroup RULEZ (written by PCTA extras)
it was the very last posting I made...ANY posting. :-)

ALL postings, in fact. According to those RULEZ,
NO "unlicensed" (in the amateur radio service) poster has
"any business saying anything about amateur radio!" :-)

You don't have it in you to be able to anwer a question with a straight
answer?

I don't see a straight answer here. When was the last time you
admitted
to any wrongdoing here.

According to newsgroup RULEZ (written by PCTA extras)
it was the very last posting I made...ANY posting. :-)

ALL postings, in fact. According to those RULEZ,
NO "unlicensed" (in the amateur radio service) poster has
"any business saying anything about amateur radio!" :-)

You're simply gurgling some made up pablum.

Not a sign of a straight answer. When was the last time you admitted
to
any wrongdoing here?

According to newsgroup RULEZ (written by PCTA extras)
it was the very last posting I made...ANY posting. :-)

ALL postings, in fact. According to those RULEZ,
NO "unlicensed" (in the amateur radio service) poster has
"any business saying anything about amateur radio!" :-)

C'mon Leonard. We're pulling for you. I think you can come up with an
answer. Give it a try, old boy.

Do you believe in your self-righteous attitudes, Len?

Ennumerate those "attitudes," big badass Dave.

Don't you know what your own self-righteous attitudes, little wizened
Len? You've just made an accusation about the "self-righteous
attitudes" of others. You didn't "ennumerate" them.

Tsk. I don't have to list them. They are in plain sight. :-)

I'm sorry. If you want others to "ennumerate", you'll have to sweeten
the pot by doing so yourself.

PCTA extras have the "truth" (as they believe it).

Don't you believe that things you write are true?

I have this funny belief in FREEDOM, a wonderful
thing about freedom of expression and the freedom
of being able to communicate with my government
to make changes. [that must not be in big badass
Dave's world...]

You seem to believe in FREEDOM for yourself, but not for others with
ideas
at odds with yours.

Tsk, tsk. I believe in freedom for all.

That hasn't been evidenced by your manner here.

You must think that is "wrong" in amateur radio...you RULE
it the old-fashioned way, you bully it with others. :-)

You as big a bully as ever showed up here, Len. :-) :-)

You've commented. Nobody applauded. Some laughed. Some ridiculed.
Some argued.

You have no guarantee that those things won't happen. Your freedoms
don't trump anyone else's freedoms. That's just the way it works.

Is it?

Yes, it is.

Morse code testing remains for amateur radio licenses, long
after it served its usefulness to the government agency
regulating amateur radio.

Others disagree with you and say so. That's FREEDOM.

It has been lobbied for by the ARRL
(a minority group)

You're a much smaller minority, Len. You're about 138,000th the size of
the ARRL.

... through the insistence of the olde-tyme
board of directors' voting and the tradition of maintaining the
Archaic Radiotelegraphy Society, a living museum of old
radio skills.

C'mon, Len. Knock of your fantasy stuff lest the hooting and tomato
throwing begins anew.

That's a dictatorship by a minority group, very UN-democratic.

You'd substitute your dictatorship by your 138,000th sized minority?
Now that would be very undemocratic.

But, big badass dave managed to pass the "CW" test and
so have other PCTA extras.

Can't little wizened Leonid pass the "CW test?

They LIKE being dictators and
pushing others around.

You seem to like pushing others around but you surely don't like it when
things aren't going the way of your 138,000th sized minority.

That makes them "somebody" and
that seems to be very important to them.

Would you like to be somebody in amateur radio, Len? There's that pesky
"getting in" part.

NOT "freedom." Except to the PCTA extras who have theirs
and screw all the others, the newcomers.

You've commented to your government. You've soapboxed here. That's
about all the further your freedom extends. Freedom doesn't mean that
it is going to be done your way, no matter how much you want something
to come to pass.

Nice attitude of theirs? No

Nice democratic thing? No.

I don't think you know very much about democracy. Remember your
"Coronation Day" comments. Well, freedom and democracy didn't go your
way. Too bad.

Big badass dave, you have this nice shiny Orion, don't you?

Are you always in the habit of asking a question to which you already
know the answer?

Why
don't you go play with your Orion toy on the radio spectrum,
work DX on HF with CW.

Here's one for you, little wizened Lennie, I'll do that if I choose.
You aren't keeping up with what's going on though. This weekend was the
big SSB DX contest weekend. I did some of that because I chose to. I
posted here too, because I chose to. You do what you can and I'll do
what I choose. Fair enough?

Quit trying to play Boss.

Quit trying to play like you have something to do with amateur radio.

Dave K8MN