On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:15:52 GMT, Doug Smith W9WI
wrote:

is how people can expect to work FT5XO on CW when they can't copy Morse.

Fired up on 40m this evening, but sat the paddle aside & gave up on
working them (for now) when I found it simply totally impossible to
figure out where the FT5 was listening. The offending calls below are
NOT fake; while I don't guarantee I copied them all right, I'm pretty
sure the operators appearing after "Pileup:" below really are lids.

FT5XO: KC4AUF 5NN
Pileup: W3QY W3QY KI0F KI0F

FT5XO: K2CI 5NN
Pileup: K2FU K2FU

FT5XO: VE7XF 5NN
Pileup: AA9PB AA9PB

FT5XO: WX2K 5NN
Pileup: K1UO K1UO

FT5XO: K7 UP LID
Pileup: VE3XB VE3XB

FT5XO: N9IW 5NN
Pileup: KV0Q KV0Q

FT5XO: K8IW 5NN
Pileup: K3PA K3PA

FT5XO: UP LIDJAQ 5NN
Pileup: KV0Q KV0Q

FT5XO: K9NA 5NN
Pileup: NS1L NS1L

OK, at least in the second case, the guy who called had more than one
letter in common with who FT5XO came back to.....

There are plenty more guilty parties out there. It was difficult to
collect the incriminating evidence, as before one "I don't recognize my
own call!" lid could finish sending his call, another one would call
over the top of him.

Figuring out where the guy FT5XO actually came back to was is simply
impossible in this mess. I DX for fun -- this kind of crap isn't.
Dialed down to 1510 in the BCB & got my new one down there...

Hint to DXers: IF YOU CAN'T COPY CODE, DON'T BOTHER TRYING TO WORK DX ON
CW! That's what SSB and RTTY are for...

It's no better on SSB. For example the aforementioned FT5WJ this
morning calls on 14.278 (I still don't understand this, Charlie's
"help" notwithstanding) and says that he's listening 5 to 15 up.

He's only about 44 here but I can understand this quite nicely. The
exact same thing happens. He says, WX0XX and several hundred stations
keep right on giving their calls, often while he's transmitting.

If WX0XX actually makes a QSO everyone who heard him pile on his freq.
In the meantime, FT5WJ, if anyone bothered to listen for a few
minutes, is now listening on another frequency. A bit of listening
instead of a lot of calling and this was easy to figure.

I called once up 15 after he worked someone up 10 and he came right
back with a 59.

I remember an expedition from a few years ago (not the call just the
event) where the op, transmitting on 14.195, said, "Listening 5 to 20
up....(mob starts calling)... and 14.190." Worked him on the first
call on 14.190.