In article , Mike Coslo wrote:

There is very little difference between IRLP and people using the
internet for making telephone calls.

So what, are you saying IRLP is a phone call or what is it ?
Infact who gives a damm what it is, it allows HAMS to
communicate when they want to. IRLP demonstrates whats
possible so if you dont like it, dont use it.


If a person made a gateway for IRLP using FRS radios, it would be the
same thing. For CB radio, same thing.

There are voice chat rooms for people on the internet already. They are
probably more reliable than IRLP. THey cut out the weak link - the radio.


Sure, use them and call it what you want.

The whole setup eliminates every interest and challenge of Amateur
radio, except for the talking. There is as much technical acumen needed
for me to talk around the world using IRLP as there is for me to pick up
the telephone.

eh eh , the standard answer from an Armchair Critic. You Sir have
no idea how IRLP operates and is structured. You even think that
picking up a VOIP phone is a simple exercise. If you've bothered
to investigate how SIP, H323, MGCP and other protocols work
and how this is hooked together to provide VOIP, then I and everyone
else here would love you to make it wonderfully simple...

Like I said before there are *MANY* parts to our hobby, I don't knock
what you do in Amateur Radio, so leave people alone that like IRLP.

Um, no thanks. Seriously, if you want to do IRLP, then have at it. But
if you do silly things like have contests, then I think I'll voice my
opinion if ya don't mind.

I would prefer if you shut your mouth actually and let those
that are interested, have spent the time organising and promoting
get on with it and for you to pursue your own interests, though
your own interests seem to be related in flaming people doing
things you have no interest in....

Without new innovations in Amateur Radio we will not get new people into
the hobby. If we don't get new people into the hobby then Amateur Radio
will die a natural death and then we will have to find another hobby!

And here is the real kick. Do you actually *think* that IRLP is some
kind of "innovation"? It is the internet equivalent of a phone patch.
Like I say, if that is your think, then fine. But to actually have a
contest for such things is silly.

YOu really need to get out more....IRLP has been around for many many
years, 6 to be exact. Its not a phone patch, a phone patch
connects to an analogue circuit. IRLP was one of the early VOIP
systems, you know, those systems that are **6 YEARS LATER getting
press coverage....

Let them contest, collect your stamps and let those that are
interested in their aspect of the hobby get on with it. You
could do **MUCH** better to remain silent and get on with your
**OWN** aspects of the hobby

Of course, last time I checked, there was no law against being silly! 8^)



- Mike KB3EIA -

Aint that a fact....