"Mike Luther" wrote in message
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There's more to why, if possible, on-line logs are a real help..

Hank Oredson wrote:

"N1KI" wrote in message
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N1KI wrote:

Does FT5XO have an online log?

Why would you need one?

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin


Once I know a dxpeditioin has my call sign entered in their log
correctly,
I quit calling them. That way others who still need to work them have a
better chance of doing so. It is called courtesy, something you don't
see
much on on major dxpedition frequencies, so I understand why you would
ask..


You mean you can't tell if you worked them, if you work them ???
I'm soooo confused ...



The issue is that pirate operations also are out there that make contacts
using the official call. This operation was very kind not to divulge the
expected call until they went on the air. That does help prevent the
fraudlent operations using the call, to a point.


But the problem still exists, even with good DX operations, operators and
so on. In really wanted and needed operations like this one, without an
on-line log, you may get a 'perfect' copy and reply to you from a station
signing the needed call. But is it real? Thus,

Interesting. Usually can tell if it is who it claims to be.
Operating style, voice (or CW specifics), signal strength,
direction, amount and type of QSB, etc.

especially on low band operation where path headings, opening time windows
and so on, are a lot harder to spot for many people, the only way to
really make a best effort possible to be *SURE* you got the station .. is
to make a duplicate QSO on bands really needed. Especially low band
operations.

Also interesting. Have never had the problem. In over 50 years.
Maybe it my unique and memorable callsign ;-)

Well, we will see if my 40M SSB QSO is in the log,
they actually gave me a "two by two", but did pick the
call out correctly :_) 100W and inverted vee not very
good for 40M DXing. Certainly appreciated all the W6
folks who didn't transmit out of turn.

Net effect; without on-line log confirmations, those duplicate QSO
operations really add to the noise and QRM. Often to be met by the really
good operations answer of "DUPE!" in some casesd, in others the DX station
just ignores the dupe issue. And at that point, here goes more and more
calling by really decent people, who simply are trying to guarantee that
rare moment for all we work so hard to make possible.

Guess I need to work them on 30M again tonight?
But what if THAT one was with a pirate?
Do it again tomorrow?

Both the DX operation, and even the best operators who are polite, kind
and attentive to others as to feelings - can suffer from lack of on-line
logs, if they can be enabled, for this reason.

W5WQN


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