K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

TOPOFF-3 will be four days. More than ample time
for
any
one
person to pull more than one "shift" during the exercise,
depending
on
how you're defining "shift".

12 hour shifts: Four (assuming 12 on / 12 off)

8 hour shifts: Six (assuming 8 on / 8 off)

4 hour shifts: Eight (assuming 4 on / 8 off)

Levy your "attack" on Phil. Phil said it was two days, and
that
he
would be working both days.

There was no attack. Either on you, nor especially on
Phil.

Then why did you find it necessary to snip your crappy little
comment?

Because there was no "crappy little comment", Brian.

It was.

No, there wasn't.

Yes, there was.

"Always at a deficit for information, aren't you, Brian?"

That's not "crappy", Brian...It's the truth. That YOU don't
LIKE
it is one thing...

You don't like being called a liar. So stop lying.

I'm not lying, Brian.

Lie #10 this week?

If I cannot trust the information that the participant
provides,
then
what can I trust?

Yeah...I guess when RRAP is the ONLY place you get your
"information" from, then you're pretty much at loggerheads as to
what
you "know"...

I know you're a liar.

You SAY I'm a liar, but I've PROVED that you are.

You've proven your self to be a liar this past week, and many many
times previously.

YOU, however, were the one making the comments about how
many
shifts he was pulling-vs-qualified operators to do it.

That is no reflection on Phil. It is a reflection on the rest
on
the
amateur community, as I said.

I didn't say it was a reflection on Phil, Brian.

It's about your own insinuations of why it was "necessary"
for
Phil to pull more than one "shift" on this exercise.

Looks like there are some empty spots in the schedule.

Not from here.

Did you fill them in?

Especially if they have 6 people to cover a 48
hour period that they are participating...

Correction. Two teams of 3 people each.

And you STILL have not shown me ONE instance where ARES has
failed
to respond to ANY incident when asked to do so.

I've showed one instance where one volunteer is overextended. Are you
the only overextended volunteer in the ARS?

My behaviour here has nothing to do with what happens in the
cockpit of an aircraft, Brian.

Then you admit to having multiple personalities?

Nice stretch, Brian.

Not a stretch. When ATC fumbles a phonetic or pressure atlitude, do
you key the mic and keep repeating "LIAR, LIAR, LIAR?"

That's the Steve Robeson in RRAP. Introduce us to the Steve Robeson,
CAP Ace sometime.

Now...about your assertion that ARES can't/won't respond
to
emergencies...Are you going to provide some validation of
that
statement?

ARES will respond to emergencies as they are able, just like
cell
phones may or may not work in an emergency.

Then you are acknowledging that your statement was false and
misrepresentitive of ARES' ability to respond...?!?!

No, that isn't what I said. Are you merely a poor reader, or are
you
now starting a new lie?

What lie? And yes it IS what YOU said, Brian. Word for word.
Not a period or comma was dropped.

Lie #11?

And you have made the assumption that they are working 12
hour
shifts. Your re-arrangement still does not substantiate your
other
claims.

Re-arrangement??? The 12 hour shift scenario is a Best Case
Scenario.
If the shifts were 8 hours, the volunteer deficits would be even
greater.

"Best case" for whom?

For covering all of the shifts.

Best case ONLY to support YOUR contention of
a volunteer deficit IF and ONLY IF you assume that each
volunteer only participates once in an exercise.

Phil acknowledged that he is participating twice. You acknowledged
that it is a 96 hour exercise. I provided a best case scenario where
only two 12 hour shifts in the four day period had a deficit of one
volunteer each. Thems the facts.

And Phil states they "work in teams of three".

He does not state that all three are "on duty" at all times.
I've
never been on ANY mission or exercise, USMC, CAP, Red Cross,
ARES,
etc,
where ALL operators were "on duty" at one time.

So you were in the "Day Weanie" Marine Corps? Weather and ATC are
24/7. So is Comms. But you, the mighty day weanie marine warrior
know
otherwise. Hi, hi!

"Day Weanie"..?!?! You're stretching again, Brian.

Support guys like you.

People who are not in operations, don't have to keep it going 24/7.

OK, 8 hour shifts:

Let's put Phil on Team A, and Phil is pulling two shifts.

Day 1, Team A: Day
Team B: Swing
Team C: Mid (deficit of 3)

Day 2, Team A: Day
Team B: Swing
Team nothing: Mid (deficit of 3)

Day 3, Team A: Day (no Phil, deficit of 1)
Team B: Swing
Team C: Mid (deficit of 3)

Day 4, Team A: Day (no Phil, deficit of 1)
Team B: Swing
Team C: Mid (deficit of 3)

Steve, have it your way. It makes the situation worse.

No, it doesn't. You can still cover all operating periods with
staff. I doubt you were ever a supervisor in the USAF, Brain, from
your "all hands on duty now" contention.

Hi! Hi, hi, hi!!!

Were you a reservist?

Sorry, Brian...Your contentions are still grasping for
straws.

Nice try, though.

Idiot. Would you like me to show you what 6 or 4 hour shifts look
like???

Brian, six people for a 48 hour period is thin, but adequate.

Inadequate for the 96 hour period that you specified, and the "team of
3" requirement that Phil specified.

Them's the facts.

Sorry you don't agree, but then it appears you don't have the
supervisory skills to make it work.

Steve, K4YZ

The supervisor fills in when there are a lack of personnel. But you
didn't see much of that in the USMC, didja, ya Day-Weanie Marine.

Look, it's a new week and I'm in a good mood. Just got back from a
great scout camping trip. Wx was perfect, invigorating hike, gourmet
chicken in a foil pack dinner last night, must not have snored too much
last night because my throat isn't sore.

Just admit to your lies, say you're sorry, and begin this week with a
fresh start. The truth will set you free.