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From: N2EY on Apr 12, 4:20 pm
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Lest WE forget..."N2EY" NEVER served in ANY war in ANY

military.

How do you know for sure, Len?


You don't know for sure, do you, Len?


Tsk. You aren't in the St. Louis database. :-)


Does this database cover all military organizations, or just those of
the USA?

Did you know that people can change their names?


What does it matter whether I served in any military or not?


This newsgroup is amateur radio policy, not WW2. :-)


There you go, Len, behaving like a jackass. Again.

What does it matter whether I served in any military or not?

Remember that WW2 ENDED BEFORE you were born.


Why is that of any significance? If anything, it is
more important that those of us who weren't alive then
keep the history alive.


...so, you want to keep U.S. amateur radio as a
living museum of morsemanship. Understand.
Understood before, still understand that. :-)


You don't understand jack, Len ;-)

I live just up the hill from Valley Forge, where Washington's
army survived a terrible winter. Also down the pike from where
the Paoli Massacre took place.


That's nice. Been there, seen that. So, WHAT
does that have to do with amateur RADIO?


About as much as you do, Len. IOW, nothing.

That war ended long before *you* were born, Len.


Absolutely...but, the American Revolutionary War
did NOT involve either morse code or radio.


So?

Remember, this IS an amateur radio policy news-
group, not some teary-eyed emotional hangout for
those that NEVER served.


Who is "teary-eyed"? Not me.

And what does it matter anyway?


Not to me, personally.


Sure it does. You rag on it constantly.

But, remember, this isn't
the History Channel and you AIN'T a docent in it.


Neither are you, Len.

Yet you make this BIG THING about morse code
in a window display...


Is it wrong to mention an interesting architectural feature?


Morse code is NOW an "interesting architectural feature?"


The windows are an interesting architectural feature.

So, you are now an amateur "architect?" :-)


Sure - why not?

Does it bother you, Len?


Only in that you are such a transparent hypocrite.


Naw, I'm really more of an honest mirror, showing your
mistakes and errors. Really does bug you, it seems, when
someone like me - whom you consider your inferior in
every way - points out a mistake of yours, or can do
something you can't.

Here's a hint: The Canadian military forces used Morse Code in
WW2.


Wow! [...that's a BIG Ben Stein "wowwww...."]

could it be that you
just don't give a damn about WW2 and only want
to make a big emotional showing for morse?


Nope - not at all. I find the history of WW2 to be
very interesting. I think it's important to understand
that war, both how it got started and the aftermath, to
understand current history. And technology.


Tsk, tsk. Then you MUST understand that THIS venue
is NOT for "warfare" or the technology of warfare.


Then why do you gas us so much?

You should also realize that morse code has HAD its
day


It's day is today, too.

and is now obsolete for modern communications.


That's simply not true, Len. Of course you get all worked up
if anyone says anything good about Morse Code. So typical,
so predictable.

Obsolete for everyone but the retrograde self-
aggrandizement elitist PCTA extras who USE morse
skills to show how much "better" they are than all
other "radio operators." Tsk, tsk.


There you go - more jackass behavior from Len.

For example, the very first high-speed, general purpose,
digital electronic computer, ENIAC, was developed and built
right here in Philadelphia - in the basement of the building
where I
went to EE school. I've actually seen and handled
pieces of it, read the original papers in the library there.


Poor baby, still BEHIND the times, reaching for glory
on someone ELSE's work. Look again. Collossus over in
the UK's Bletchley Park beat ENIAC in the time frame.


Bzzt, wrong. Colussus wasn't general purpose.

Not only that, John Atanasoff's little group over at
Ohio State was before BOTH of them. :-)


The Atanasoff-Berry Computer (ABC) was never fully completed or
operational. ENIAC was.

You really DON'T know your own industry's history well
and you are griping about others. Tsk, tsk, tsk.


You don't know jack about computer history, Len.

It was built to compute artillery aiming tables for the US
Army,
and was used for ten years at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds.
There's
also an unconfirmed story that it was used for atom
bomb calculations.


Sounds like you've been irradiated to sterility of the
mind.


Nope. Just the facts.

LOTS of calculation places were busy doing
ordinance table calculations way back then.


Of course. And ENIAC could do in couple of seconds what
they took days or weeks to do. That's a fact.

Bell Labs
had a RELAY calculator...actually three of them in one
of the first computer "networks" in NYC. Before ENIAC
was started.


Those relay machines were electromechanical, not electronic. They
worked but were very slow compared to ENIAC - not high-speed at all.

Tsk, tsk. Get WITH the history program!


Get with the facts, Len.

Or let's talk about the lessons to be learned from the US Navy
Mark XIV submarine torpedo, and its problems.


Oh! You are now an Expert Extra on USN ordinance?


I don't claim to be an expert about anything, Len. But I do know the
lessons of the Mark XIV.

Do you?


Remember, this is an AMATEUR RADIO POLICY newsgroup.


Then perhaps you should stay on the subject.

Perhaps the proximity fuse is more to your liking. Incredible
device, made with tubes originally meant for hearing aids.


Tsk, tsk. You had a "prox" go off on YOU, sweetums.

Remember, this is an AMATEUR RADIO POLICY newsgroup.

I could go on about the political and economic effects, but since

this

is a radio newsgroup I thought I'd stick to electronic and
radio subjects.


Remember, this is an AMATEUR RADIO POLICY newsgroup.


Yet you go off on lot of tangents...

If I did talk about any military service I had, you would
be certain to make fun of it. It's just what you do, Len.
So typical.


But...you did NOT serve...so HOW can you "talk about"
something that NEVER happened?


It's called a hypothetical, Len. If I served, you'd make
fun of my service. It's what you do when someone disagrees
with you.

Remember, this is an AMATEUR RADIO POLICY newsgroup.

I haven't dissed Bill Sohl about his USN service.


Because he doesn't disagree with you about Morse Code testing in
amateur radio. In fact, he pretty much ignores you.


Bill hasn't been here much. That means he "ignored"
YOU, too! :-)


When Bill was here, he and I discussed many amateur radio policy issues
in a civil manner.

I haven't dissed Brian Burke about his USAF service.


Because he doesn't disagree with you about Morse Code testing in
amateur radio. In fact, he pretty much idolizes you.


Irrelevant for THIS thread, sweetums. :-)


No, completely relevant.

It's only those who disagree with you about Morse Code testing
that get your disrespect, abuse, name calling, and general
jackass behavior.


Oooooooo! Big PCTA EXTRA tossing your weight around?


Not me, Len.

Hello? Does the "sign-off" word "PUTZ" mean anything
to you? :-)


I've never called anyone a PUTZ, here, Len.

Does Kolonel Klunk's "you never did any operating 24/7
in the military" mean anything to you? :-)


Only that you never did anything requiring consciousness 24/7, Len. Can
you stay awake 168 continuous hours?

I HAVE dissed those that want to LIE about
their big heroic military "actions" such as
Stebie the wonder murine


There you go - calling names. So typical.


Ooooooo! Causing you "great pain and anguish" is it?

Nope. Just pointing it out.

about his famous
"seven hostile actions"


Do you know what they are?


Nope...the big hero sojer in da TN woods won't say!

Are you reading deprived and can't understand what
your pet buddy is saying about others?


You are more responsible for how he behaves than I am, Len.

Where *you* involved in any of them?


Now, HOW could I have been "in" them? My service
time was 1952 to 1960. Check with St. Louis archives
if you don't believe that. :-)

Is there any reason to doubt that Steve, K4YZ, was involved
if he says he was?


HUNDREDS OF DOUBTS! :-)


IOW, none at all.


and his failure to
acknowledge that the DoD really does direct MARS.


I see. His mistake somehow justifies *your* behavior?


Just ONE of DOZENS of his "mistakes." :-)

He'll have to work hard to catch up to you, then.

Godwin invoked. You lose.


Do you go to the House of Godwin on Sundays?

Sorry, sweetums, I've WON but you can't ever admit it.

Why not use the person's name and callsign?


Why don't others?


Why don't you?