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From: on Thurs,Apr 14 2005 3:42 am
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From: on Wed,Apr 13 2005 4:28 am
[etc., etc., etc...]
Granted, you didn't see any "morse code modes" in use at
ADA. But to say there was none used at all, anywhere in the
US military is a different thing.
Tsk, tsk, tsk. Changing the subject.
No he didn't. Just pointed out that YOU tried to change the
parameters to meet your rants again...Didn't work. And you didn't see
any "morse code modes" at ADA...Unless, of course, you're lying to us
again....
Long-distance point-to-point communications bore
the brunt of ALL military branchs' message traffic
to an amount of GREATER than a million messages a
month.
What's interesting is that you have to qualify the statement
as "long-distance point-to-point communications" - because
Morse Code was then still being used *extensively* by the US
Navy, by the maritime radio services, by aircraft and by many
other radio services such as press services.
"Extensively?!?" HOW DO YOU KNOW? :-)
Sweetums, I WAS PART OF IT.
Liar.
By your own documentation you were nothing more than a radio
mechanic. You never held "radio operator", "message center", or other
similar OPERATOR MOS's.
Army station ADA, as assigned to Far East....(SNIP)
Same rant. Still irrelevent.
Sweetums, that "extensively" is just your wishful
thinking. Of course there was SOME morse being used
by all branches in 1953. But, HOW MUCH? YOU DON'T
KNOW! YOU WERE NEVER IN. YOU NEVER DID IT FOR THE
MILITARY.
He is as likely to know as you are, Lennie. He has the same
resources at his disposal to "research" as you do.
And it was on fixed, predetermined frequencies, using equipment
most individuals could not afford to buy.
Tsk, that's called PROFESSIONAL COMMUNICATIONS, sweetums.
When one is IN the Cold War and trying NOT to let it
develop into a nuclear confrontation, one uses absolutely
the BEST stuff to "get the message through."
OH WOW!
Now Lennie prevented World War Three! ! ! !
And it was *not* the kind of communications that make up the vast
majority of amateur radio communications.
Don't misdirect, sweetums.
YOU started this thread with an emotional message about
"morse code in the window" at a CANADIAN MILITARY
museum. Try to stay within a few light-years of the
subject.
He's a lot closer than you are, Your Lyinghsip.
At some point, anyway. The US Navy was still using Morse Code long
after the beginning of the 1950s.
HOW DO YOU KNOW? YOU DIDN'T SERVE.
So, by YOUR logic, a guy who spent 2 years on KP knows more about
Morse Code usage in the Armed Forces than Jim Miccolis!
So was the Coast Guard.
HOW DO YOU KNOW? YOU DIDN'T SERVE.
So, by YOUR logic, a guy who spent 2 years on KP knows more about
Morse Code usage in the Armed Forces than Jim Miccolis!
The REAL QUESTION, Lennie, is HOW DO YOU know...?!?! You were
NEVER a military radio operator, and yet you "served" in the Army.
OH! OH! ERROR! MISTAKE!
First of all, your buddie and pal, Stevie he say
that "MARS IS amateur radio!" Tsk. MARS' first
letter in that acronym means MILITARY.
And the SECOND letter is AFFILIATE...As in affiliated with the
Amateur Radio Service...From which this MILITARY program draws it's
operators.
And Lennie...what MARS calls have YOU held?
I was NNN0VVU from 1977 to 1982. I was a guest op briefly for
NNN0MOQ in 1980, then CHOP of NNN0MOF in 1981 and ANCOIC of the Okinawa
Island-Wide MARS Program in that same time frame.
I was also AFA1OQ from 1983 to 1987. I joined ARMY MARS briefly
in 1999 just before my daughter passed...AAT4SA.
Secondly, check with a REAL MARS civilian volunteer.
You will find out that the military GIVES them radio
goodies. No need to "buy."
BBBWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHA
! ! ! !! ! ! ! !
MARS allows participants who have ALREADY met certain
PARTICIPATION goals to draw equiment from surplus stock!
In other words, you operate YOUR gear on MARS assignments BEFORE
you EVER get to "go shopping"... ! ! ! !
And MARS "issues" of surplus radios dwindled to less than a
trickle YEARS AGO! ! ! !
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! ! ! ! ! !
Military already bought
the stuff and used it. Be NICE to MARS folks,
Jimmie, maybe they'll GIVE you an AN/FRC-93 for
nothing; it's a Collins KWM2 Commercial transceiver
with a military nameplate.
And most likely they never will. Nor are they about to issue any
other gear to anyone who hasn't already established dedicated
participation to warrant ANY "equipment issue".
Big snip of usual divergant rhetoric...
For over half a century (actually, since before WW2)
the brunt of messaging in the military has been done
by modes OTHER than morse code.
Even if true, (it's not) so what?
HOW DO YOU KNOW? YOU'VE NEVER SERVED IN THE MILITARY.
What does serving in the Armed Forces have to do with it, Lennie?
YOU constantly insist that since EVERYTHING you could possibly
want to know about "radios" , military or otherwise, is on the net,
it's not necessary for you to be a licensed Amateur to know about
Amateur policy issues.
However your FREQUENT errors, including the ones above vis-a-vis
MARS is GLARING PROOF that your LACK OF PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE make you
ill-prepared, yea incompetent, to make INFORMED opinions on the
matter...
Yet you still bombard this NG with tons of rants pontificating on
matters you are't qualified to discuss.
You're argument says that since most US Navy ships stopped relying
on
the wind for propulsion long ago, nobody should own a sailboat
today,
even for "a hobby pursuit, a recreation, something done on free time
for enjoyment."
Sweetums, this newsgroup is NOT about BOATING.
It's "NOT" about a LOT of things that YOU feel free to discuss at
length when the mood strikes you. But you do it anyway.
Anderson, you keep delivering corroborating evidence to my claims
of your ignorance and incompetence in Amateur Radio (and MARS) issues,
and for that I thank you!
What a PUTZ!
Steve, K4YZ