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April 16th 05, 04:44 PM

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From: Dave Heil on Apr 12, 9:31 pm

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From: N2EY on Apr 12, 4:20 pm
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about his famous
"seven hostile actions"

Do you know what they are? Where *you* involved in any of
them?

He doesn't have any idea what they were. It kills him.

NAH.

YEAH! ;-)

It only shows what a snow-jobbing laid-off
murine does under the guise of a U.S. AMATEUR radio
extra callsign. Tosses brags like they were bagels.

What brags, Len? Look at American foreign policy since the
end of the USA's involvement in Vietnam. Plenty of "hostile
actions" for active-duty, career military personnel to be a part of in
a variety of roles.

And that's just the "hostile actions" we civilians know about.

To my knowledge, Steve has never stated that DOD does not
direct MARS.

His claim is that if there were no radio amateurs, there'd
have been no
MARS program. In that, he is correct.

Bull****.

Well, you're certainly the authority on *that* subject, Len! ;-)

The United States ARMY started MARS...but
under a different name before WW2.

Nobody disputes that. The claim - more like an opinion - is that
the program wouldn't have existed without radio amatuers. It's
really unprovable either way, because there *were* radio amateurs long
before the MARS program existed, and radio amateurs have always been
involved.

MARS always was and remains a MILITARY radio system.

But most of the participants aren't in the military.

A small one, about as effective as having special
services put on shows and entertainment. Morale
boosting thing.

Is it a good thing or a bad thing, Len? Or are you only impressed with
size?

That's pretty much why I've left details out. As with Steve's
military
service, Len doesn't know what I did or where I did it and it
kills him.

No problem with me.

Haw, that's funny. Len, you pretty much come unglued at the slightest
opposition to your cherished statements, or when
someone refuses to feed your insult machine.

If you ain't got the guts to
tell the details, you AIN'T done it. Simple as that.

Then you must think that Brian Burke, N0IMD-allegedly-/T5, "ain't done
it", because he won't give any details about his amateur radio
operation in Somalia.

What you're saying, Len, is that something isn't real unless people
tell you all the details. That's called "subjective reality" and it's a
complete crock. Rational people use
objective reality, which exists whether people talk about it or not.

Orwell did a good job describing the subjective reality mindset in his
classic "1984". You remind me of "Big Brother", Len, in the way you
want to rewrite history to fit your mindset.

If a person does something, they've done it whether they talk about it
or not. Or whether you believe it or not. Simple as that.

If N0IMD/T5 really happened, then it happened regardless of whether
details are given or not.

If the State Department really used Morse Code in the 1980s to
coordinate RTTY operations, then it happened regardless of whether you
believe it or not.

And if K4YZ really did participate in seven hostile actions,
then it happened regardless of whether details are given or not.

Now you can say you don't believe something happened, but your belief
is simply an opinion.
As far as I'm concerned, amateur radio is about operating any
mode I
choose on any band I choose. Len isn't involved on any level.

Everyone NOT licensed in amateur radio "isn't involved."

:-)

No, Len, that's not true. FCC is involved - but you're not FCC. Amateur
radio manufacturers are involved - but you're not one of them, either.

You're not involved.

The point is that some MIGHT want to GET INTO amateur
radio.

Who? Not you, of course. You're not involved.

Len knows more about what others did than those involved.

Nope.

It's what you claim.

But...I DO recognize a bull**** artist from a
long distance.

You can just look in the mirror....;-)

Len knows more about radio operation.

Tsk. I know HOW they work and the protocols needed
in some radio services.

But not amateur radio. Not Morse Code. Your knowledge is all theory, no
practice, when it comes to amateur radio. Sidewalk superintendent
stuff. All hat and no cattle, all talk and no action.

You did some articles for a now-long-defunct New England-based ham
radio magazine 22+ years ago. None of them were about building or
operating an amateur radio station.

Len knows more about your work.

Tsk. Jimmie "works in the transportation field"
according to one Comment in the ECFS.

Do you mean me, Len?

Other than
that, Jimmie do NOT say squat. He afraid others
find out?

Why no, Len. I'm not "afraid" of others finding out. I just choose not
to give out that information.

Who did you vote for in the presidential elections of 2000 and 2004,
Len?

Are you "afraid" of others finding out?

Perhaps you think that if you don't give the details, you didn't really
do it....

Whatever Len did at ADA more than a half century ago impacts
amateur radio not in the least.

Riiiiight old-timer. Ham radio NEVER operated on HF, did
it? :-)

Len tells it because he wants to be sure that everyone knows of it.

You betcha! :-)

The U.S. military did NOT use morse code in long-distance
fixed-point to fixed-point communications a half century
ago and still don't.

Even if that's true - what does it matter to amateur radio policy?
Amateur radio isn't the US military.

Tsk. Some of you olde-tyme hammes
need to get your noses out of old WW2 surplus radio books
and inspect the rest of the radio world.

Is that an order?

Why should what other radio services do be more important to amateur
radio policy than what hams do?

How does it give him the right to insult those who never
served?

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Those with SUCH thin skin should NOT be
ANYWHERE on the Internet!!!! :-)

I see. Well, Len, you have the thinnest skin of all those here, because
you get insulted by *any* opposition..

Who did you vote for in the presidential elections of 2000 and 2004,
Len?

Are you "afraid" of others finding out?

Perhaps you think that if you don't give the details, you didn't really
do it....