Steve wrote:

So, I take it you are one of those people who thinks fashion and
opinion
is more important than truth, and that truth should be subjec to the
way
you "feel," and the mood you're in at any given moment? Fortunately,
there are men with strength who will, perhaps, die trying to prevent
that.

You read me wrong, sir. I believe that the Catholic Church has no
monopoly on the truth at all, never had, maybe never will, although
they have a stranglehold on their adherents. I don't believe that,
through all of their artificial trappings and (IMO) weird cult-like
approaches to Christianity, they come close to what Jesus would have
wanted. I also believe that, like any human institution, it is
corrupted beyond what St. Peter originally intended. I also happen to
believe, regardless of fashion, that they are simply wrong.

As far as your last sentence goes, I see no relevance to this topic.
At least, I cannot see any martyr wars breaking out in the Catholic
Church.

Your kindness and sense of compassion and liberal open-mindedness
have
been duly noted.

Thanks - Compassion (along with courage and wisdom), more than anything
else, is what the world seems to lack most these days. It doesn't take
a liberal to feel sorrow or compassion for those living in misery, by
the way - only a human being whose heart still ticks.

Benedict XVI had to pause a moment before speaking today because the
homosexuals booed and jeered him, yet I'm sure he'll refuse to bow to
them.

Well, that's fine, they deserved it, and the gays don't have to be
Catholics either...however, I would not live with a bunch of
mythological made-up crap either. However, if you can point out one
place where Jesus condemns a single man for being intimate with
another, or woman with woman, I will tell all the gays I know to repent
instantly and live a life contrary to the fibers of their beings (which
God arguably built into them).

Frankly, I do not care whether gays are in the Catholic Church or not.
It is not relevant to the damaging effects the Church continues to have
on the poor and the ecology of this planet

I have to wonder: If someone is a Sodomite, and they want a
Catholic-like
church, why don't they simply make their own faith, and find their own
way?

I agree.

I'd say that rather than permitting the collapse of the Church, they
have
done much to attempt to destroy it.

I disagree. Through their actions, they only make themselves outcasts.
The Church is wealthy enough to persist on its own.

I also think that the topic of sodomy and etc. is unimportant. It is a
side topic that, as long as only 8-10% of the world is gay, will not
become key.

I am done.

Bruce Jensen