From: Paul W. Schleck on Tues,Apr 19 2005 12:38 pm

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From: Paul W. Schleck on Mon,Apr 18 2005 12:03 pm


By taking things too literally, you have missed the point (and also
further proving you have no sense of irony, humor, or
self-deprecation,
all important examples of human emotional intelligence that, by the
way,
could be detected by, oh, I don't know, a Turing Test maybe?).

OH, YES YES YES...A FAILURE ON THE HUMAN EMOTIONAL
INTELLIGENCE SCHLECK SCALE!!!!

Gotta love it. Judge Schleck comes out with some weird
character out of a dozen years ago, in another (UNNAMED)
venue SOMEWHERE on the usenet...and posts a lot of total
BULL**** that I am "similar!!!"

I, of course, do not think that you are 100% Serdar Argic.

Riiiiight. [bull****] I'm not even 0$ "close."

You might as well say "I'm just like 'Kasar Pane' or
'Balik Kavurmasi.'"

Why not? [it's Turkish] You can really do a snow job
on somebody with names like that.

I'm happy to clarify that for you.

Stop sounding like a used car salesman or other pitchman.

Rather, you act very much like Serdar Argic in
many ways, and I thought the newsgroup readers would be amused by my
pointing that out.

Riiiiight. You KNEW "Serdar Argic" and say "I'm NO Serdar
Argic..." :-)

Not to worry. I once met the REAL Arpad Somlyody.
[hope I spelled the name right after all these years]

I figured that you would not be amused.

Whatever gave you THAT idea? :-)

I didn't figure that you wouldn't understand why WE were amused.

Oy beggin' yer lardship's pardon...oy dint behave in
da presence of ya nobles wot got all yer WE-WEs itchy.

Here's just a few examples that I could find in the few minutes that I
searched in Google (try the query "wrong Len
group:rec.radio.amateur.policy" at http://groups.google.com):

Tsk. Judge Schleck is carrying on like his real name
is Roy Bean and he be in the olde West and wanting to
hang anyone high...

So...have you queried (in just scant minutes) ANYONE ELSE'S
"mistakes" and evil, wicked, mean, and nasty comments
about ANYONE ELSE? Tsk. Haven't seen you in here for
months and suddenly you strap on them "six-shooters" and
go gunning for ONE individual...who "coincidentally" is
a pro not an amateur and who is against the morse test.

Uh-huh...you are "here" to nobly RIGHT WRONGS and do
some "avenging." [serving all you WE-WEs, no doubt]

"WE are not amused," you write. Have another piece of
cake, Marie...

- snip of alleged "offenses" committed before the
high court of the kangaroos -


I characterize these as interpretations either because they are wrong
(can be rebutted by facts), or are expressions of opinions (usually
sweeping, black-and-white assumptions that can be counter-argued into
many shades of gray).

Tsk, tsk, tsk, Judge Bean...er, Judge Judy...er, Judge Schleck.

Feel free to do a few "searches" on OTHERS who were here
BEFORE me as well as during. It will take you "only
minutes." :-)


What I have seen is something like Israel/Palestine, or Serbia/Bosnia,
where the conflict has been ratcheted up incrementally until it
becomes
personal on both sides.

So...has your ratchet clicked up anything about me in regards
to those foreign places? Or did your ratchet get clogged with...
(I won't mention it).


You have certainly done your share of
escalation, spoiling for fights, and picking new fights.

Absolutely! But, one error...I haven't "picked new fights."
The old ones haven't ended yet as the walking wounded from
years ago in here are still suffering anquished pain and
demand retribution.

Tsk, tsk. Somebody calls me names and does the personal
insult bit and they get REPLIES. Oh, oh, oh, OH! One
CANNOT talk back to High Nobles of Amateurism!!!! No, no
nono NO! That just "isn't done!" :-)

You remind me
of the type of person that the police regularly drag out of barroom
brawls, or that school principals separate on the elementary school
playground, and usually with both sides screaming, "But HE started
it!!!!"

Poor baby. YOU remind me of some haughty intellectual who
got his academic robes twisted when someone from the real
world (the one outside the campus) pointed out some really
real things.

At that point, it doesn't matter who started it, because you
have what are called "unclean hands," and thus garner no sympathy from
me, or others.

Whooooeeee. The caste system has been cast in concrete,
I see! [is there a "caste-ing couch" in here too?]

Tsk, tsk, tsk. I've been doing computer-modem communication
for almost 20 years and learned LONG ago NOT to "look for
love, respect, or admiration" via this medium. Don't start
with that bull**** "looking for sympathy" thing...doesn't
work with grown-ups, boy.

Case in point on hypocrisy: Look at what you wrote IN
CONTEXT. Seems like that is an exact depiction of what
you accuse me of doing! :-)

Your spoiling for a fight caused you to lash out at Jim, N2EY, in a
situation where you were not directly attacked, your basic arguments
about Morse Code were not explicitly contradicted, and you chose to
reply (post #2, in response to his post #1 in the thread) in a manner
that was completely off-topic and ad-hominem.

In other words, my manner got YOU all ****ed off. :-)

So...Miccolis (who never served) GETS A PASS because he
"is allowed" to previously act in the manner you described?
[do a search etc., will take you only minutes or something]

Not a problem. Your reaction was expected.

Say nasty to traditional methods, sass the WE-WEs and
one will be hung from the nearest J-pole. :-)

Meanwhile, all the NON-serving "historians" can strut
around as "experts" in a parody of a Monty Python
lumberjack. :-)

I might have even given
you a pass (by not replying) if you had argued something like, "Well,
I
don't think that Morse Code deserves such architectural worship in a
World War II exhibit by implying that it has the same status as, say,
Egyptian Hieroglyphics in an exhibit about Egyptology." Instead, you
ripped into Jim with an accusation that he didn't have military
service
(an off-topic, ad-hominem attack that could only be replied with,
"Yes/No/Maybe/So What?"), then tried to drag him into some silly
argument over whether Morse Code could be an "interesting
architectural
feature." That's when I dropped in on the thread.

In fewer words, you got ****ed off!

Everone gotta be nice-nice to da extras and morsemen.
They RULE ham radio. Uh-huh. Got the picture. Got
whole billboards, posters, and regular ads to that
effect. Yawn. Been that way for years. Try to say
something new.

Jim and I have disagreed on many things, but I don't like to see a
fellow ham attacked in that way.

"Brothers in arms." :-)

As you can see, the ham community will
close ranks and will defend each other vigorously if that happens.

"As one." "An Army of ONE." "All united."

Tsk. Usual stuff. Each individual thinks ALL hams think
just like them. Not quite. :-)

That's not a threat, merely a pragmatic observation that you are not
winning friends or influencing people here.

AWWWWWW...."really?" :-) :-) :-)

I've never come in here to "win friends." Got them already,
NOT on-line or by "working contacts" on a raddio.

You are falling into a common personal trap in doing this
computer-modem comms thing...that of thinking you are "one
to one" with however you are messaging to in public. NOT
so. You can't see all the (silent) readers who never post.

I'm NEVER going to "convince" Morseman Miccolis of anything
and have never hoped to. He is of the type that just can't
be swayed from his set-in-concrete and armor-plated godlike
stubbornness about the efficacy of morsemanship. Neither
can I convince any of the other CLOSED minds who have been
thoroughly brainwashed into some weird groupthink. They
toss out their arrogant stuff by the bushels full on a
regular basis (sounding like Newington-south all the time)
and us little "we" are supposed to sit quietly by and say
"yes, sir, no, sir, can we have more, sir?"

Not likely, Judge Schleck. Bang your gavel all you want,
but there are MANY out here and there who DO NOT agree
with old ways, old traditions, forever keeping some
antiquated artificial standards operative until the end
of time. There's lots of us independent thinkers out
here and there and a few of us don't really give a shnit
about saying what's on our minds. [I know that's tough
to live with but it IS a fact of life and it's growing]

So, "close your ranks." Do close-order drill in formation
if you want (the morse beat will be the music you need to
keep in step?). Fly flags, have the post band play loud.
Vigilantes can even try to burn an ARRL diamond on my
front lawn. :-) Your "ranks" in that particular
"community" is having more and more deserters. Formations
are out of step more often than not. Hobby activities'
members don't all particularly care to be in some para-
military "service." Get used to it.

Whatever merit you may have
originally had is now completely wasted, and falls on deaf ears.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. [add overtones of "snide" to your being
****ed off]


What a silly question. Of course, I have examined the record, that's
why I have come to the conclusions that I have.

[aren't you rather underestimating the degree to which
you were ****ed off? :-) ]


yourself. Not even John Updike or James Michener could generate that
much output and still be original.

Thank you for putting me in with some literary best-sellers!

I wouldn't mind it if you put me in with J. D. Robb... :-)

I used the principal address you
used over the years. If I threw in your recent switch to
" (probably due to AOL shutting down news
service),
and any other address you used earlier (you previously said you have
been posting to the newsgroups for about 7 years), I'm sure the
statistics would be even higher.

"Billions and billions served!" :-)

A saga worthy of a Sagan.

Consider it an astronomical number since I've been doing this
computer-modem thingy for nearly 20 years and have a little
experience at being a BBS co-sysop and a moderator on two
other BBSs. Tsk, tsk, tsk. If you think some of these
public egos are "large," you ought to see them in private! :-)

Furthermore, most recent threads show you replying, and
counter-replying, and counter-counter-replying, and ..., doing more
than
your share of contributing to run-on arguments. In this most recent
thread, you have made about 21 out of the 141 posts to date, and will
probably make many more. Do you really need the last word that badly?

No, now that you explain that others "DO deserve the
last word!" :-)

Tsk. Am I to "keep to some (ordained) schedule" in here?
Sunday afternoon I was speaking at Getty Center. Only
posted a couple that day. Monday the Getty is closed and
I didn't have any other things needed to do...posted
several things. Tuesday it's "back to the usual" and
I wasn't here. shrug

You really need to POST A ROSTER of who is PERMITTED
and who is NOT PERMITTED to post! :-)

"Close ranks" ALL the way. As I've suggested before, just
make access restricted to those who can "show papers" AND
demonstrate a Group Mindset "worthy" of being in the
newsgroup. NO major dissention allowed. Lock out any
"undesireables." No problems. All make nice-nice and
chant traditional mantra.


The following response of yours exhibiting your obvious persecution
complex is a perfect example of your overwrought replies:

Wow! "OVERWROUGHT!!!" Tsk, tsk, tsk. :-)


The following response of yours about the "Turing Test" joke is a
perfect
example of your overwrought replies:

Tsk. Some of us "artificial intelligences" get SO
"overwrought."

Remember what ol' Sam Morse tapped out, "What hath
God overwrought?" :-)


Are you homosexual, Len?

Call me a "lesbian." I prefer women. :-)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not judging you if so
("Not that there's anything wrong with that," as Seinfeld would say).

Perish the thought, JUDGE Schleck would NEVER "accuse"
anyone!!!" No, no, no, no NO...


Speaking of tests, you didn't answer my challenge that you guess my
positions on Morse Code.

I really don't give a flying fig about your "position." :-)

I've never HAD to use any morse code in my whole career
IN radio (a mere 52 years now)...which includes, but is
not limited to REAL HF communications. Anyone who says
I "MUST" take some federal test in order to be ON HF as
an amateur tends to get the Flying Fickle Finger of Fate
awarded in return. :-)

Either you don't know, or you realize that
arguing with me isn't about Morse Code, it's about your desire to
fight
just for the sake of fighting, whether people could conceivably agree
with you or not.

Tsk. It's also about my getting you all ****ed off. :-)

That happens a lot all over the Internet.

Have a nice day...