It might surprise you, Steven Hawkings (possibly the greatest mind alive--if
not--close) often refers to "God" when chatting and writing about his
thoughts... I don't know Steven's present stand on the existance of "God",
however, I do NOT think he has claimed his/her/its' existance is
impossible...

Steven is quite aware of the fact that probability and statistics make it
very hard for evolution to be the sole reason for our state of existance...

Here is a link to some of his musings and quotes, a search of the net will
provide mo
http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Physic...en-Hawking.htm

Warmest regards,
John
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"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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| On Tue, 10 May 2005 07:39:33 -0400, Dave Hall
| wrote in :
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| Your anti-God bias is showing. You would rather believe that the
| complexity of our ecosystem occurred due to just the right random,
| combinations of factors and events to produce all the diversified
| species, which all have a key part to play in the total picture,
| rather than consider the likelihood that an intelligent force was
| somehow responsible for guiding it.
|
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| There's nothing "random" about it -- when you consider that the bell
| curve consists of a population as great as the number of events that
| occur in the Universe within any period of time, it becomes utterly
| -ridiculous- to think that life requires divine intervention. And if
| there -is- evidence of guidance by some intelligent force, it's far
| more likely that this "force" is not God but some sort of ETI. May the
| force be with you, Dave!
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| But keeping with that, who said it was random? Natural evolution and
| selection explains away any coincidental occurrences that you may
| mistake for "random".
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| But what motivates natural evolution?
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| Natural variation, and adaptability to a dynamic environment.
|
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| Who decides whether a mutation
| is "beneficial" or not? Natural selection, otherwise known as
| survival of the fittest, assumes that gene mutations which result in a
| "better" species, would survive while the "lesser' versions of the
| species would die out. Yet, it is said that homo-sapiens evolved from
| apes. Why then are apes still around if we are the "new and improved"
| version of the ape?
|
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| Because you assume that the "'lesser' versions of the species would
| die out", which is not necessarily the case. There can be many
| circumstances where a variation doesn't compete for the same resources
| as it's progenitor. This explains why there are so many speices of
| birds that have but slight variations -- many birds are migratory. And
| so are many species of primates.
|
|
| Evolution only explains a small part of the puzzle.
|
|
| No, you have only -learned- a small part of the puzzle.
|
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| ......Why
| do humans have self-awareness? Why do we posses an intelligence that
| allows us to contemplate the unknown, and live beyond the programming
| of instinctive behavior? What about the concept of a soul?
|
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| Evolution is science. The questions you ask are philosophical. But
| before you start putting the human race on a pedestal, maybe you
| better think twice about what you assume are the differences between
| humans and other animals.
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| Instead of being wishy-washy about the issue, why not consider the
| possibility that evolution is, very simply, one of God's creations?
|
| It very well might be. It's all part of the bigger plan. Like I said,
| I totally accept the concepts of evolution. I just believe that the
| process has been "managed" by a higher order intelligence, the
| definition of which, has yet to be revealed. I am not advocating any
| specific religious interpretation of "God", only that one exists.
|
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| The problem is that you don't fully understand the vast multitude of
| variations that can occur in the processes of evolution. Neither do
| the scientists that study it. But the scientists don't insert God into
| the equation whenever something doesn't add up -- they look for other
| factors and they usually find them.
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