RadioBanter - View Single Post - Putting ARRL back "mainstream" with hometown hams

May 16th 05, 12:35 AM

From: on Sun,May 15 2005 5:43 am

wrote:
From: on Thurs,May 12 2005 3:26 pm
wrote:

Why, Len? I don't claim to be the only accurate voice. Just more
accurate than you.

Heh heh heh...only by YOUR "authority!" :-)

The FCC doesn't appear to think as you do, Jimmie.

Sure they do.

Tsk, tsk, Jimmie...in the REAL reality of now they
do NOT think as you do.

The ONLY one who "thinks like you do" is YOU. :-)

I've pointed out that the numbers I post are of currently-licensed
individuals. You fail to mention that the numbers
on hamdata.com include clubs and other non-individual licenses
(over 9,000 of them) and expired-but-in-the-grace-period
licenses.

Tsk, tsk. Early symptoms of Alzheimer's?

I've written "exclusive of club calls" on quoting
the Hamdata statistics.

Jimmie, get your definitions correct. Those amateur
licensees who are IN the 2-year grace period for
renewal are NOT "expired." The FCC doesn't call them
that. If those renewals are done within that grace
period, they retain their old call.

"Expired" applies AFTER the total 10-year plus 2-year
grace period.

Just answer the question, please.

No. :-)

That's simply not true, Len.

You're just making up bull****. Typical jackass behavior for you.

Tsk, tsk, very Very VERY WRONG, Jimmie Noserve.

Try to use CIVIL language in here...or are you
studying under your buddie, Stebie da Avenging Angle
of Dearth, aka today's Amateur Extra role-model?

I've repeatedly said that "radio amateur" means anyone licensed
in the Amateur Radio Service. License class, band and mode don't
matter. VHF/UHF is as much "real amateur radio" as HF.

No, you have NOT.

I'm not your sweetums, Len.

Heaven forbid, NO! :-)

I was using familiar terms to I-had-dinner-with-the-
Captain Kellie...ya know da Philly "tuff tawk?" :-)

Or is your last hoagie disagreeing with you?

I don't INTERPRET raw data.

That's true. You MISINTERPRET raw data...

Poor baby...I do NOT INTERPRET as Jimmie Noserve
"interprets." That's why you are so disturbed and
angry, compelled to try to "put me right." :-)

I just quote
it from the public database downloaded by one website
from the FCC.

So you accept hamdata.com without question...

NO. You are WRONG!

I question almost everything. I accept Hamdata figures
for the simple reason that they do NOT go into ARRL-
style sinning-by-omission on radio history and their
minority viewpoint on How Amateur Radio SHOULD Be.

Does the ARRL download the daily FCC database on
U.S. amateur radio licensees? No? Tsk, tsk.

You don't want to listen.

Sure I do. But I don't wade through the mountains of posts you
make here.

No, Jimmie, you do NOT want to listen to anything but
the fantasy you've come to believe about a hobby.

Jimmie, do NOT engage in word "food fights." Your
aim is WAY off and you cause too much collateral
damage.

I don't take you seriously at all, Len.

No sweat, Jimmie Noserve. I've never taken you as anything
but a Believer, a toady to ARRL group-think, and a liver in
the past before your time.

But I do point out
the holes in your arguments, and your factual/logical mistakes,
which seems to enrage you no end..

No, No, NO, Jimmie, you got it WRONG again.

All you do is engage in some odd word play to try
and "justify" your rationalizations of your fantasy
ideas about a hobby. That is NOT "correcting
mistakes."

Maybe I might want to get a ham license someday?

Nope. We can rule that right out.

Who are YOU to judge?

You are NOT in the FCC.

You are NOT an official in the ARRL.

All you are is acting like a snide little hamlet who
can't accept that you do NOT "rule" anything (except
with a pencil and paper).

Nope. Truth is one thing you avoid....

WRONG...WRONG...WRONG...WRONG...

Tsk, tsk. Jimmie boy, YOU don't CONTROL anything or
anybody.

Sure I do. I don't control everything or everybody, though.

Tsk, you've LOST CONTROL of YOURSELF there... :-)

So what? You're not a radio amateur, never been one, and it appears
that you'll never become one either. That's the TRUTH.

WHO said "I will never become one?" :-)

Jimmie Noserve predicts the future? Should he be
called Jimmie Nostradamus? :-)

Jimmie, I've been an UNLICENSED radio-electronics
hobbyist longer than you've been alive...and that IS
the truth...in REALITY.

I've been a LICENSED PROFESSIONAL in radio-electronics
about as long as you've been alive...and that IS the
truth...in REALITY.

I was OPERATING on HF BEFORE you were born, Jimmie,
IN the military...the military you've NEVER been in.
That is reality...whether or not you care to accept it.

Don't even ATTEMPT to CONTROL what I am "allowed" to
do in the FUTURE...because you CANNOT and you do NOT
know the future.

Quit acting like a spoiled child who demands obediance
to you and your ideas.

Why no, Len, it's not about me at all.

This thread is about the ARRL and the FUTURE, Jimmie.

It isn't about the PAST that you glorify.

It is about NUMBERS and who is getting what license
in amateur radio. [the Technicians are getting the
overwhelming majority of new licenses, upsetting
your cherished ideals of How Amateur Radio Should Be]

I never made a SACRED VOW in HERE on anything,
"Sweetums."

No, you didn't. I never claimed you did.

You are trying to MANUFACTURE that
condition.

Nope - I'm simply pointing out what you claimed you would do,
but haven't done yet.

You aren't being CONSISTENT. Try to get it straight.
Is it what *I* "might" do or is it about "what I will
'never' do?"

You are (seemingly) bringing up an OLD piece of a
posting to IMPLY that I "must" do it...EXACTLY as
I wrote it. :-) YOU be the "jackass" when you keep
on doing that.

Jimmie, this thread is NOT about me. Why do you want
to convene a kangaroo court? Are you that unhappy
with things that you NEED to antagonistically "pick
on" others? Get CONTROL of YOUR life. Get OFF of
mine.

Nope. I'm simply pointing out what you claimed you would do,
but haven't done yet. And will probably never do.

That TRUTH appears to bother you a lot.

See, that OLD piece of posting is still sticking to the
roof of your brain. Are you an Effluent?

FANTASY doesn't bother me. You have much FANTASY
going...especially when you come up with What Amateur
Radio Should Be (according to your god-like perceptions
and beliefs). Fantasy can be FUN as entertainment.
FANTASY should NOT be any basis for REGULATIONS...yet
that is what you think is "truth."

TRUTH is what the FCC database has...the FCC grants
the licenses, can tally up what it grants. The TRUTH
is that the increase in NEW Technician licenses in the
USA is averaging about 26 per day, over four times the
total of other-class licenses put together. The ARRL
is still busy keeping up the charade that U.S. ham
radio is like it was many decades ago. It isn't. They
aren't really trying to entice Technician class
licensees into League membership. The post that Hans
Brakob made addresses that FACT.

YOU don't seem to like that TRUTH. You want to call
such facts "wrong" because they are against your
BELIEFS. You want to "strike back" at those that
present the TRUTH because such TRUTHs are uncomfortable
to your fantasy.