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May 21st 05, 05:34 PM

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From: "Bill Sohl" on Fri,May 20 2005 1:15 pm

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Now if the input device for
text messaging had been a full keyboard, then I'd expect
the text messaging to win out as I belive records for
typing/keyboarding (100+ WPM I think) do exceed
the morse record (70+ per someone else's post).

Agreed again, but - again - that bit on the "Tonight
Show" was never any "contest" to "prove" anything.

A few things are evident in this newsgroup. Firstly,
there are the cast-in-concrete conservatives who have
been brainwashed into believing that the ULTIMATE
skill in amateur radio is morsemanship.

Uh, no that's not the way it works at all, has nothing to do with
"brainwashing", has to do with CW being a very attractive mode for a
number of reasons for those of us who use the mode and nothing more.
Fact is that with a couple possible exceptions I don't believe there's
a CW op in this NG who doesn't use other modes too. So blather like
your "ULTIMATE skill in amateur radio is morsemanship" are simply
screwball contrivances on your part which you post in hopes that
they'll provide a platform which focuses attention on you.

Secondly,
there is that handful of irregular regulars in here
trying to "win out" over anyone expressing any
opinion other than theirs...those stop at nothing to
attempt damaging their "opponents" credibility
through the usual attempted intimidation and personal
insults.

Bwaahaha! From the master of all of the above! Hypocrite.

It matters not - in this newsgroup environment - that
the rest of the radio world has "put morse to the test"
and found it wanting in favor of better communications
modes. The only practitioners of morsemanship still
active and USING it are in amateur radio in the USA.

That's simply bull****. Hams from upwards of 200 DXCC countries show
up regularly in the two major annual CW DX contests. Many if not most
of those countries require that their hams pass code tests in order to
operate in the HF bands and in the contests.

Sorry Len, I can't agree with your statements here.
Like it or not, morse operating IS real operating radio...
just as driving my antique cars is real automobile driving.

Bill, in all honesty,

Bwaahaha! As if.

I was talking about the PCTA Extra
Double Standard brainwashed diehards in here...NOT
yourself...OR driving antique cars.

Witness the constant statements of that "expert military
communicator" who keeps insisting I was "only a radio
mechanic"

By the military definition were you or were you not ever a U.S. Army
radio operator?

or the critic who never served but "had dinner
with the Captain (of an aircraft carrier)." :-)

Any number of times actually. In fact every Friday nite while underway.
Do you have a problem with it?

Maybe this is the point in history when you can uncork an ongoing
mystery for me. There's been piles of bafflegab from all quarters in
this NG over the years about who done what in the military and who
didn't, etc. Looming over all this is my complete failure to understand
what anybody's military service or a lack thereof has to do with ham
radio policies in general and more specifically with discusssions about
retaining the code tests in Part 97. I just don't see any logical
connection betweem the two basic topics. If you have a few spare
moments would you be kind enough to explain this linkage in terms I
might be able to grasp?

Morsemanship IS PART of radio operating...but ONLY of a
radio that actually DOES USE on-off keying of the RF
carrier with morse code. Morsemanship is NOT REQUIRED
by anyone operating an aircraft radio - either civilian
or military. Morsemanship is NOT REQUIRED of anyone
operating a broadcast services transmitter. Morsemanship
is NOT REQUIRED for anyone sending a GMDSS distress or
safety message. Morsemanship is NOT REQUIRED of any of
the radios (in the millions) used in Public Safety or
Private Land Mobile Radio Service. Not in the FCC
regulations for those radio services...and others.

Why should Part 97 licensees have to "do" what other services do? Or
not do.

Is morse commonplace outside of ham radio? No
it isn't, but that does not make the use of morse by
hams any less "operating radio" then any other mode.

Given that you (Len) believe morse is NOT operating
radio, would it be your desire to see morse banned
as a mode of use by amateurs?

Bill, that's NOT a "given." IF and only IF morse
code skills ARE REQUIRED in radio operation, then
morsemanship IS a PART of radio operation.

Do not try to put words in there that I am "banning
morse code operation" in amateur radio. I am NOT.

Others - in here - have already tried that. They
have failed...but they keep persisting in their
misguided attempts to suppress the real subjects by
their personal attacks and misstatements against others.

You haven't posed a viable question.

Bilge. He sure as hell did pose a viable question and nailed you to the
wall in his very polite way. Now cut your duck, bob and weave routine
and answer Bill's direct question, "would it be your desire to see
morse banned as a mode of use by amateurs?". Yes or no.

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The win did not prove nor did I see any amateur
in this newsgroup suggest that the win showed
that morse was "better than any other mode."

Bill, I will have to put you down as a LITERALIST then.
A "literalist" is one who takes all written text as it
is, unable to read in anything "between the lines" and
acting like some "language purist."

I'm sorry you've turned into that.

Yeah, I'll just bet you are since you're the local Lord of Twisted
Verbiage. Bill has your number just like the rest of us have, you're
toast Sweetums, the last credible NCTA has left your house of cards.

.. . .

So, 91 years after the ARRL was formed, the best national-
exposure "publicity for amateur radio" is a rigged late-night
TV show segment ridiculing cell phone TXT-ing?

Good policy point (??!)

Toast.

snore

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