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May 24th 05, 05:17 AM

From: on Mon,May 23 2005 3:57 am

"who can't argue a subject for squat and does the personal insult
thing
in order to "win an argument." "

Oh, oh! Reverend Jim issued a Sermon On The Antenna Mount! :-)

Not only that, the poor guy is still furious over NOT "winning"
a newsgroup argument THREE YEARS AGO! :-)

Not only that, the "argument" wasn't even about RADIO!

Hello? This newsgroup is about AMATEUR RADIO POLICY. Military
and international socio-political politics are another group.

"RADIO" includes all of the HF portion of the EM spectrum. That's
where the major international communications networks WERE in
the 1950s. I was part of that - for three years - as a
volunteer in the United States Army...operating HF transmitters
for an Army station. A "small" station, only the third largest
in the worldwide Army net at the time, just 36 transmitters
ranging from 1 to 15 KW in 1953 (43, up to 40 KW in 1956) and
none of them using OOK CW modes. That station was located in
Japan, specifically a few miles outside of Tokyo. 24/7 ops
attached directly to the Far East Command Headquarters, then
in Tokyo...continuous links to Seoul, Pusan, Okinawa, Manila,
Saigon, Anchorage, Seattle, Hawaii, San Francisco plus local
HF nets all throughout the Kanto Plain of Honshu Island.

In early 1953 there was still a state of War between the
United Nations and North Korea although a truce was
imminent (that would settle into a "permanent" Truce in
July, 1953). I had voluntarily enlisted in the Army on
13 March 1952...when there was still active warfare in
Korea. My assignment to the Far East was ordered by the
Army and not subject to my approval or disapproval...one goes
where assigned or one goes where the penitentiary is (after a
court martial).

Army duty required a continuous practice on soldiering skills
regardless of one's military occupation specialty. In addition
to that, there were continuing updates on emergency and
contingency plans plus operational tests of same. Note the
location of Japan to the easternmost parts of the USSR, then
an adversary in the "Cold War." The USSR then possessed the
atomic bomb.

Since I was in the Signal Corps and working on/with radio
communications, my unit was NOT briefed on the overall
military capabilities of the Soviet Union to the detail
outlined in the Janes books. We had one simple directive
in the case of military conflict: "Close with, and destroy
the enemy." We were all reminded of that in the regular
training sessions of Provisional Infantry Platoon ("PIP")
practice, along with "you are soldiers FIRST and signalmen
second." We were NOT given any of the movie-style
practice on identifying Soviet aircraft from little models
or silouettes...nor were we instructed in operation of
anti-aircraft defense (there were other units for that
purpose).

While all that was going on, station ADA kept on 24/7
operations at a rate of nearly a quarter million messages
a month through its facilities...thousands of miles from
the United States of America. Was FEC Hq "in danger" from
its "rear-area location?" Depends on what you "4F" types
want to call "danger" from your safe locations in the states.

Now, did I make a "mistake" on calling out Soviet "Bear"
bomber types in 1953? Yes. In the 49 years from 1953 to
2002 (date of your target "example" message) I've seen a
LOT of statistics and information on Soviet military power.
If I needed to be SPECIFIC, then I would go look up the
EXACT thing. But...Soviet aircraft was NOT in my "line of
work" in 1953 to 1956. Radio was. HF radio...and VHF,
UHF, and microwave radio. RADIO, Jimmie. RADIOS that must
operate 24/7, "getting the message through." I made NO
"mistakes" there.

You want to sit safe at your computer and scoff and scoff
and show how "expert" you are in military and political
matters...and NEVER having served in any government post
or military in REAL SERVICE for your country. You want to
"tell me how it is" in the military without wearing a
uniform, taking any induction oath, or being shipped out
of the country to some foreign base. You want to attempt
humiliation all because you are still "suffering" from not
winning some "message battle" years ago. Poor baby.

Jimmie boy, there's NO indication that you EVER worked IN
radio...or in aerospace...and you want to be an "expert
guru type" on that. You've not worked AT the FCC, you've
not worked AT the ARRL, you are NOT in the judiciary, yet
you try to speak as if you were all of that. All you seem
to have is long "tenure" in amateur radio NEWSGROUP MESSAGING.
Hours and hours and hours of that. More than I have.

On Memorial Day you WILL be remembered. We veterans all
remember the anti-military civilians who like to spit on
military people one way or another, SAFE in their un-
touched communities expressing contempt for anyone who
has served via the Internet.

Amateur radio is a hobby activity carried on for the purpose
of personal enjoyment. It is, in part, a technological
endeavor involving the laws of physics, regulated by the
government because ALL radio works by those same physical
laws. Amateur radio is NOT a fifth branch of the armed
forces. Ham operators are NOT "serving their country"
any more than stamp collectors or bird watchers or other
hobbyists. Try to keep from translating your amateur
radio license form into a DD-214.

Here's my "salute" to you, Jimmie Noserve, on this upcoming
Memorial Day: middle finger upraised

Temper fry...

ex-RA16408336, USA, Signal Corps (1952-1956)