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Hello? This newsgroup is about AMATEUR RADIO POLICY. Military
and international socio-political politics are another group.
Then why do you go off on so many tangents, Len? You seem to be afraid
to have a civil discussion about amateur radio policy here.
In order to have a "civil discussion" on Amateur Radio policy,
Lennie would have to have some sort of experience from which to make
informed opinions or suggestions from.
That never stopped Mike Powell or any of his predecessors.
"Mike Powell (and his) predecessors" staff out assignmentss who
ARE informed on the various issues.
Like they were informed about refarming the 220 band to UPS? BPL?
"UPS" was not the only entity involved in that "deal" Brain, and
Amateur Radio operators are as responsible for that folly as anyone.
Well, that's one opinion....
We had more than andequate opportunity to get that band "loaded
up" like 2 meters ('Use It Or Lose It") but didn't.
That happened for a bunch of reasons.
First off, 220 is not a ham band by international treaty. It's
primarily land mobile - we get it as a secondary allocation here in
Region 2 because the FCC lets us. Most parts of the world have never
had a band there. That's why it's not used for satellite comms.
And because of the relatively small market, the selection of
manufactured rigs for 220 was and is less than for 2 meters or 440.
All of which means FCC could reallocate some or all of 220 without
waiting for treaty changes.
BTW...remember the FIRST 'threat' to the 1.25m band and for what
purpose?
Yup. It was stopped by two factors: Opposition by hams (including
ARRL), and
disinterest by the users who would supposedly migrate there.
The first threat was from the EIA, who saw an opportunity to sell lots
of new
radios, antennas and accessories, while relieving the congestion on the
existing
allocation. The users didn't like the fact that almost all of their
existing equipment would become useless.
In both cases, the original threat was to the entire band, then part of
it.
Perhaps more amateur activity would have saved 220-222.
But it must Len. Len must be stopped "SOMEhow!" At any cost.
Fun fact: I haven't seen anyone here tell Len to shut up (as in "shut
the hell up, you little USMC feldwebel") or to go away. But he has done
so several times.
Who is trying to stop who?
I may or may not like the politics of Mr Powell, but whether he
has said or done anyhing I didn't like, I can't say he was lying or
obviously being deceitful in his dealings with Amateur Radio.
C'mon, Steve, anyone who knows a little about radio knows that BPL is a
real
threat to every radio service that uses the same frequencies. Anyone
who
knows a little about the whole theory of why FCC exists knows that one
of its
fundamental purposes is to protect licensed radio services from
avoidable
interference - either from other radio services, or from other
electrical
devices and systems.
All Mr. Powell had to do was look at the measurements and observations
made
by any number of observers - including but not limited to ARRL - and it
was
obvious what would happen. Or look at the experiences in other
countries. Or
declare that *any* interference complaints would result in immediate
BPL system shutdown until the problem was fixed. Instead, the business
model overrode the engineering model.
Perhaps all the outcry from hams and the ARRL may yet carry the day
against
BPL. Note how few systems are actually in operation, and how many have
shut down. Note also how many that were under consideration have not
gone
forward due to the interference issue. Meanwhile, DSL, cable and WiFi
expand
daily.
73 de Jim, N2EY