Brenda Ann wrote:


"running dogg" wrote in message
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You claim that double digit growth starting from zero is not impressive.
But considering how backward China was 30 years ago, much like the
Soviet Union was in the 80s, China's progress is remarkable indeed.
Russia hasn't managed to turn things around as well as China has (at
least economically speaking). Yes, salaries in China are low compared to
the US. But in China, it takes a lot less money to live large than in
the US. In India, many workers earn US$70 a month, but in India, that
puts them solidly into the middle class. Meanwhile, Americans who make
$50k a year struggle to pay their bills. It's all relative.


I'm glad someone besides me can see this. I've always marvelled at the
people that talk about 'sweat shops' in second and third world countries
that pay very small percentages of what we make in the US being evil. Thing
is, as you stated above, the standard of living in those countries allows
for making much less money than in the US for a comparable lifestyle. In
Thailand for instance, the median annual income is around $6000, yet most
there still have most of the same conveniences we take for granted, and
there are many US products available in the stores at much less than we pay
for them.

Well, working conditions in China still aren't that great, and some of
the workplaces there would qualify as sweatshops by most measures of
working conditions, but they pay well enough for urban Chinese to enjoy
a pretty good standard of living. In the countryside, things are much
worse, however, since agriculture is still collectivized from what I
know, and most rural peasants barely scrape by. Most of the anger at the
CCP is in the countryside. Also, many Asian cultures will tolerate much
more political repression than Americans if they have lots of economic
freedom and lots of money. Look at Singapore-very rich, very capitalist,
yet very repressive politically. Vietnam is another prosperous Asian
nation where the Communist Party still rules with an iron fist. For
decades South Korea, where you live, was very repressed politically yet
very capitalist. Westerners tend to assume that capitalism and democracy
go together, I guess it's the result of decades of Cold War propaganda.
But that's not necessarily the case. Deng Xiaoping acheived what
Gorbachev could not-turn a communist country capitalist without chaos
breaking out and the whole society falling to pieces.


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