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From: "K4YZ" on Wed 1 Jun 2005 23:00

[the lonely sentinel bursts out in rage and anger, unable to
control his emotions...mighty flashes issue from his red pilot
lights...he raises his USMC bayonetted soldering iron and
strikes! Whiff...the unconnected strike punctures the empty
air...]

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From: on Tues 31 May 2005 15:55

It's not. But when you lecture the newsgroup on "young'uns in ham
radio", your lack of experience is relevant, don't you think?

Lennie's not a parent, if we follow his own logic.

Lennie has repeatedly insisted that if I did certain things in the
Armed Forces, then I would be quick to brag about them and discuss them
readily. Since HE does it, EVERYONE must do it too.....

That's not the truth, but that's what Lennie has insisted.

That's simply untrue, Stebie.

Stebie NEVER worked HF communications in the USMC. Indeed, he
was NEVER in any sort of radio communications tasks as a
helicopter ground maintenance crew.

Stebie still hasn't verified his CLAIM of being "Assistant"
NCOIC at a USMC MARS station.

The United States military used NON-morse HF communications
for the major tactical/strategic radio communications since
1948. [Stebie wasn't even conceived until much later...]

Thousands of men (and a few women) have worked in HF
communications in the military. I was one of those thousands
IN the military working on HF communications, "getting the
messages through" and on a 24/7 basis. Stebie, the Avenging
Angle of Dearth, has NOT. Stebie is jealous, poor thing.

Therefore, that being the case, and Lennie having failed to
discuss his successful procreation and subsequent rearing of offspring,
we can conclude that it never happened.

Stebie, in his RAGE and ANGER, has lost his bearings on what
this newsgroup is about. Hint: It is about radio amateur
policy matters. Pediatrics is NOT the subject.

Stebie has expressed an inordinate desire to talk about others'
families, especially WIVES. This newsgroup is NOT about
Stebie's fantasies about others' marital relationships nor is
it about SEX. Yet, Stebie keeps on mentioning his "enemies"
(in the newsgroup and probably everywhere) as "penis head,"
using a Yiddish pejorative (even when he is unfamiliar with
Judaism nor its Central European ethnic group of Yiddish.

You are very wrought-up on this subject of "parenting."
Why? Why for discussion of amateur radio policy?

Look at the subject line.

Lennie claims to be an engineer, but can't seem to make notes of
the "details"...

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Both "Quitefine" and Stebie (Assistant NCOIC
of Rage and Anger among the PCTA) don't understand that
"young ones" are not necessarily just their "own" offspring.

Stebie, the self-appointed "ethnic puritan" of this newsgroup,
couldn't make it on his own as a Purchasing Agent of a small
electronics company, yet claims/postures/implies that he
"knows" all about radio-electronics engineering, what the
engineers know, what the engineers do, etc., etc., etc.
CLAIMS. Brags. Posturing. Stebie's forte' as a mighty
macho morseman.

I make no "claim" of engineering. I AM one and have been for
many years. My professional occupation.

Stebie is a NURSE. "Quitefine" (James Miccolis) will NOT
reveal what HE works on or for...other than letting slip once
that he "works in vehicular technology" (in one of his
comments on one of the 18 Petitions for amateur radio
restructuring. "Quitefine" is NOT a member of the worldwide
Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers (IEEE), a
professional association.

That pretty much says it all - *you* have a problem including young
people. The surreal part is that you're neither a parent nor a radio
amateur.

Lennie doesn't let little things like "no practical experience"
keep him from expressing an "expert" opinion on a great many range of
issues.

The "surreal" part of Miccolis and Robeson's diatribes is that:

1. No pediatrician is required to be a "parent." There is NO
such "requirement" in any academic organization to "be a
parent" in ANY degreed/titled work involving children OR
procreation of children.

2. "Quitefine" (Miccolis) seems to disregard laws of physics
in that ALL radios work by the SAME physical laws,
regardless of human designations as to their application.
[inconceivable that a claimed double-degree individual
would insist that ONLY licensed radio amateurs (who have
obtained a federal merit badge only in amateurism) can
express any opinion at all.

3. In the United States of America, ANY citizen has the RIGHT
to comment to their government on ANY law or regulation
REGARDLESS of whether or not they have any "license" or
other "authorization" to "operate" under some rules or
regulations.

4. Neither Miccolis ("Quitefine") nor Robeson have ANY
"authority" to RULE on U.S. amateur radio regulations,
yet the seek to bar, to subjugate, to eliminate ANYONE
BUT licensed radio amateurs from even talking about it.
Apparently those two control freaks do not understand
that NO FCC Commissioner or staff member is "required"
to possess an amateur radio license in order to offcially
regulate U.S. amateur radio.

5. Miccolis-"Quitefine" has NOT YET stated how many offspring
HE has parented. He implies he has but the number, gender,
are all big unknowns. Robeson has only mentioned his
"offspring" from his second marriage...neglecting any
mention of "offspring" from his first, failed marriage.
Regardless of the NON-applicability of "offspring" as
the ONLY "authoritative experience" in discussing young
people, they implore (if not directly order) "offspring"
as a "prime requirement" to talk about young people.


Your answer indicates what many have long suspected: that you
expect to be instantly recognized as an expert without having
to meet the requirements for a license.

It was suggested to Lennie that he take some of this energy and
submit a proposal to the FCC to allow "engineers" either a free pass
or some sort of a "bridge" exam to get licensure.

Never did it.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. A NON-applicable "request" NOT required.

That so-called "request" was simply a MISDIRECTION to try to
stop any further talk on ELIMINATION OF THE MORSE CODE TEST
for an amateur radio license.

As is quite obvious under any U.S. citizens' RIGHTS under the
Constitution (of the United States, NOT the ARRL), "licensure"
in amateur radio is NOT REQUIRED to talk about GETTING INTO
amateur radio. To reiterate, NO FCC Commissioner or Staffer
is required to possess any amateur radio license in order to
lawfully regulate U.S. amateur radio.

Both of these control freaks have been invited to take their
"authority" and "shove it up their I/O ports."

They never did it. However, they might have...and enjoyed it.

Tsk, tsk. A radio does NOT operate by different laws of
physics because some government agency designates it as
"amateur."

So what? "Physics" isn't the only consideration.

And Lennie's been asked to please show where ANYone, other than
him, has made said issue of it...

No answers.

TSK, TSK, TSK. MANY ANSWERS. Apparently these two control
freaks do not have sufficient reading comprehension...or have
a psychological inability to separate their fantasies from
reality. They are continuously "making issues" of such
"clubhouse rules" where only THEY can "rule" yet neither one
has legal/lawful/actual authority to rule.


Your writing is simply unclear, Len.

It's also assinine.

Stebie, the Avenging Angle of Dearth, the newsgroup's
counterpart to Elfren Saldivar, can only "reply" with a series
of Personal Insults...which is little more than his RAGE and
ANGER and personal frustration showing clearly.

Would Lennie suggest that because people drive cars and trucks for
"business" that no one may then drive, maintain or collect them for a
"hobby"...?!?!

Stebie is still unable to focus on the newsgroup subject.
Matters of vehicular transportation do NOT belong here.


Once upon a time the idea that "teeners" using spark gaps and old
Model T ignition coils for "communications" would be nothing more than
a fad...

"SPARK," technically damped impulse oscillation, is FORBIDDEN
by law.

Neither "Quitefine" nor Stebie were alive in the early days
of radio when "Spark" was all that was available to amateur
radio. They've only READ about it, could NOT have used it
LEGALLY.


See the analogy?

He can't see his an...uh...nose. How can he see an
"analogy"...?!?!

Stebie is overly concerned with anal-genital areas of the
body. Stebie is overly concerned with other people's
wives, including desires to talk about their sexual or
marital practices.

This is NOT the newsgroup to talk about those things.



Jimmie boy,

There you go again. Why do you call names like that, Len?
Is there a reason you can't just call me "Jim", the way I
call you "Len"?

That might make you his "peer", Jim...

Can't have that!

PCTA Extra Double Standard. "Quitefine" and Stebie both
"allow" name-calling such as "PUTZ" and "gutless coward"
to others, yet object to their aliases or diminutive forms
of their given names.

Miccolis is NOT my "peer." He has not identified his actual
place of employment, has not identified his own "parenthood"
(which he REQUIRES of others), and has claimed to be a
"radio manufacturer." Tsk, he is not even a member of any
professional association. Stebie is a NURSE, has not even
worked IN any electronics engineering position...nor has he
done HF communications while in the military.


And you said there must have been fraud involved. You accused ARRL and
the VEs involved of dishonesty. Right here. That's a fact. Shall I
repost those claims?

Tsk, tsk. I wrote, some time ago, that the ARRL "sins by omission."
They do so often, especially in their publications on the history
of radio. The ARRL over-emphasizes (from omitting other workers
in radio) the "role" that radio amateurs have played in the
evolution of radio communications.

The first use of Single Sideband techniques was in long-distance
wired telephony. The first consistent use of SSB in HF
communications was by commercial and government organizations
beginning in the 1930s...and continues to this day. The ARRL
seems to have lost touch with the activities of commercial and
government users of SSB and imply that "SSB pioneering" was
done by radio amateurs in the 1950s, two decades after the fact.
One case of intellectual fraud...but it serves the purpose of
making hobbyist hams feel "important." They (and many self-
important hams) point to the Strategic Air Command about SSB
and forget that such was SINGLE-CHANNEL SSB, something already
done prior to WW2, dropped before WW2 due to lack of frequency
stability techniques to keep costs low.

The ARRL has implied that quartz crystal frequency stability
owes its existance (especially after WW2) to "efforts by hams"
(in more pioneering). They neglect an overall electronics
industry need for stable frequency control. They neglect the
tremendous effort on wartime production of quartz crystal units
by the electronics industry - A million quartz units a month
in the last three years of WW2 and a national priority second
only to the Manhattan Project. By not mentioning what has
been known in the electronics industry they imply that hams
are responsible for the pioneering...which tells ham hobbyists
nice emotional things that make them feel important.

The first use of VHF FM in mobile communications was pioneered
by commercial companies (Link and Motorola) and a few police
departments prior to WW2. That was vastly increased by the U.S.
military during WW2. The EM spectrum from VHF and up was opened
by the whole radio world just before and certainly after WW2.
Real history. The ARRL in QST magazine still refers to that
huge part of the EM spectrum as "the world above 50 MHz" as if
it is a sort of ghetto.

Where the HF part of the EM spectrum was once a major carrier
of long-distance communications (especially over water), that
is now greatly reduced, supplanted by geostationary sattelite
radio relay, under-water digital fiber cable (using optically-
"pumped" non-electronic amplifiers) carrying thousands of
comm channels, troposcatter low microwave multi-channel beyond
the line of sight distance. Users on HF have gone to single-
channel SSB voice and TORs (Teleprinter Over Radio) data instead
of manual morse code modes. The U.S. military no longer requires
morsemanship for any communications occupation specialties.
Still, the ARRL features HF communications, especially by "CW"
as a "prime" communications spectrum...and the consign the
"world above 50 MHz" to a sort of ghetto for those of lesser
"ability." The ARRL loves to emphasize morsemanship as the
epitome of amateur radio "excellence" to satisfy the old men
at the League and the membership who want to feel good and
"important in radio."

The ARRL still want to ignore the obvious fact of the
overwhelmingly-most-increasing class in amateur radio being
Technicians. They want to gloss over the fact that most of
those are NO-CODE-TEST Technicians. That pleases the old
man hams who still think that morsemanship is "important" in
radio. Those old men (chronologically or in mindset) want to
fantasize their dreams of "being somebody." They like the
words that feed their fantasies...and that lets the League
hang onto them and keep them members.

There are several more subjects on radio history that can be
shown, but the fantasizers and imaginers and those who want
to posture about their "importance" will object and call names.
Their "intellectual" response is to bring out idolated cases
that are supposed to "refute" challenges of the actual
sinning by omission by the mighty League.


Our local club recently added two new licensees...both 9....No
record, but yet more evidence that there ARE "young 'uns" entering
Amateur Radio.

Irrelevant, relatively isolated case. Apparently neither one
is the offspring of Stebie - who once touted the "ability" and
"dedication" of his own 9-year-old.

So, all you mental nine-year-olds, feel good about your sub-
teen intellectual prowess on passing the TEST. Continue to
scamper about your "private clubhouse" and generally behave
emotionally like kiddies about your "superiorities." Sooner
or later your kinder-kind MIGHT grow up. [I'm losing my
optimism on that]

The rest of us IN the radio-electronics industry will continue
doing our adult things. We will pat you on the head when you
are nice and spank you when you misbehave. Go to your room.




This newsgroup is not about Pediatrics. Nor is it about a weak bladder, and
you sure seem to be "****ing" an awful lot of late, Lennie.
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The correctness of the original opinion is directly proportional to
the length of the attempted rebuttal