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Old June 3rd 05, 06:59 PM
Dave Hall
 
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On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:11:32 -0400, (I
AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:

From:
(Dave*Hall)
On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:33:14 -0400,
(I
AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
Disagreeing viewpoints aren't a problem for the majority..it's people
like you that mistakenly feel those who hold views contrary to your own
are somehow of the minority.

The last election pretty much confirms this.




Exactly, as a certain faction (like yourself) who voted for Bush
continue to mistakenly believe Bush had a majority of the people in the
US vote for him (he didn't)


Then how do you explain how he won?


and that he achieved a mandate (again, he
did not, unless you can explain Gannon).
It's people like you that are unable to
come to terms with the fact that those large number of people who
disagree with you need not conform to what you feel is appropriate.

It is you who are in the minority, but somehow


think you are in the majority despite evidence,


Yes, evidence showing YOU are in the minority not the majority as
relates here among these pages. A perfect example is your shining belief
that speeders are criminals simply because they break a certain law,


You just keep repeating that lie in the hopes that it'll suddenly
become true. I NEVER ever made the statement that speeders are
criminals.

such as the last couple of elections, which
show exactly the opposite. Democrats are still
losing seats in congress, despite the
unpopular war in Iraq. The desperation of
these same democrats who just can't
understand why they are losing, has become
so obvious, that they don't even try to hide
their crass, shrill, and unprofessional attacks
against Republicans.




Goes bothways,,,,like Delay and the comments he made regarding hatred
and his threats against judges that you couldn't even locate on your
own.


Which pales in comparison to the vitriol spouted by the likes of Al
Gore, Howard Dean, Ted Kennedy, Hillary Clinton, and others.



In fact, you weren't even aware your own party acknowledged global
warming,


You're lying again.


so you have pretty much ascertained to the group that even
though you fancy yourself as educated on such subjects, you fall way
short.


Well, sure, when held against your wild imagination, I do fall short.
But when held against the truth, I do just fine.



That only makes the people rebel against
them even more.


At least one democrat understands this. It's
interesting to watch Hillary Clinton try to
reinvent herself as a "moderate",



As many, many republicans have distanced themselves from Bush...


A few uncertain doubters does not constitute "many".


and to distance herself from some of her more
vocal compadres. I guess she figures that we'll
all forget her former leftist politics, and that
farce that was supposed to be universal
heathcare.



That you consider healthcare for our own people as leftist politics
while we continue to offer free health care to all the Iraqis who simply
ask for it illustrates your level of comprehension.


As is typical for you, you divert from one issue to another. I oppose
all forms of socialized medicine whether it be for us or Iraqi's.


The majority makes the rules. It's fine that the
rights of the minority are considered but it
makes no logical sense that the needs of that
minority outweighs the needs of the majority.





It doesn't matter which group. When rights are being taken away or
infringed upon, the needs you speak of far outweigh any perceived
majority. You come across as "majority is always right" when it has been
illustrated and accepted the majority has been wrong, especially with
this administration.

What is considered right and wrong is usually
relative and depends upon the perspective of
the majority.



Wrong. Rights are not inherent to any majority group, despite what they
and you feel. you are not special,....rights extend to all in this
country, not merely your imagined moral majority.


That has nothing to do with the concept of what is "right or wrong"
and who sets the standard by which this is gauged.


And, like it or not, from the time we are little
kids in school, we learned that life is not
always fair, and that those in the majority set
the fads, trends, and rules whether the rest of
us agree or not.


Take slavery for example.



I already did. Get your own examples to illustrate how majority rule is
not always right.


Majority rule is always right in the context of the time it is
enacted.

During the time of slavery, the majority believed it was an acceptable
practice. Eventually the majority changed their belief and decided
that it was no longer an acceptable practice.

In no time in recent history has the minority successfully bent the
will of the majority on major issues. Change occurs when the majority
recognizes that the time is right for a different direction. It is not
a sudden thing, rather it is a gradual transition. Liberals have been
attempting to affect political and social change through the
indoctrination of young people and by the dissemination of liberally
biased news for some time. Fortunately, events such as the rise of
talk radio, the ability of people to seek alternative news sources
through the internet, and exposure of some of the purveyors of liberal
bias, has slowed down, if not reversed, this trend.



As another example, I personally think the TV
show, "American Idol" (and most "reality"
shows for that matter) is a complete waste of
time and a total example of vapid vicarious
superficiality, and voyeurism.



Exactly, yet, such audio voyeurism is something you find "juicy". In
fact, it was only a few years ago you claimed practicing audio voyeurism
turned you on,


That is yet another lie. I never made any such claim.

I also listened to people making drug deals. But that doesn't make me
a druggie.

listening to underaged girls talk about sex on their
cordless phones. In this example, you not only had to be made aware that
intentional eavesdropping of private conversations is illegal


It was not illegal at the time I was engaged in listening. Any scanner
user could do it. If the FCC or the phone lobby doesn't want people
listening in, they need to block out those frequencies or scramble the
transmissions. Which is exactly what they did for the cell phone band.

We've been all through this before. (As usual) You don't know what you
are talking about. Don't embarrass yourself by bringing it up again. I
am more than willing to post the links to the ECPA, showing the date
that it became effective and what it covers.


Dave
"Sandbagger"