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June 4th 05, 02:17 PM

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From: "K4YZ" on Wed 1 Jun 2005 23:00
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From: on Tues 31 May 2005 15:55

It's not. But when you lecture the newsgroup on "young'uns
in ham
radio", your lack of experience is relevant, don't you think?

Lennie's not a parent, if we follow his own logic.

Not exactly correct. He's never mentioned being a parent, that's all.
Given his tendency to tell us all about himself in extreme detail, it's
unlikely he is a parent, but not impossible.

The United States military used NON-morse HF communications
for the major tactical/strategic radio communications since
1948.

What does that have to do with "young'uns in ham radio", Len?
btw, the US military *did* use Morse Code for a variety of
communications purposes long after 1948.

Therefore, that being the case, and Lennie having failed to
discuss his successful procreation and subsequent rearing of
offspring, we can conclude that it never happened.

We can *presume* that.

Stebie, in his RAGE and ANGER, has lost his bearings on what
this newsgroup is about. Hint: It is about radio amateur
policy matters. Pediatrics is NOT the subject.

Actually it's about "young'uns in ham radio". The experiences
of parents do have a direct bearing on that subject.

You are very wrought-up on this subject of "parenting."
Why? Why for discussion of amateur radio policy?

Look at the subject line.

Lennie claims to be an engineer, but can't seem to make
notes of the "details"...

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Both "Quitefine"

??

and Stebie (Assistant NCOIC
of Rage and Anger among the PCTA) don't understand that
"young ones" are not necessarily just their "own" offspring.

Babysitting is not the same thing as being a parent, Len.
Good parents are responsible 100% of the time. They can't
give the kid back.

Stebie, the self-appointed "ethnic puritan" of this
newsgroup,
couldn't make it on his own as a Purchasing Agent of a small
electronics company, yet claims/postures/implies that he
"knows" all about radio-electronics engineering, what the
engineers know, what the engineers do, etc., etc., etc.
CLAIMS. Brags. Posturing. Stebie's forte' as a mighty
macho morseman.

I make no "claim" of engineering. I AM one and have been for
many years. My professional occupation.

Old Russian saying: "Trust, but verify" ;-)

Stebie is a NURSE.

Among other things.

(James Miccolis) will NOT
reveal what HE works on or for.

That's right.

Is there *any* job I could hold that would change your mind
about me and my opinions, Len?

..other than letting slip once
that he "works in vehicular technology" (in one of his
comments on one of the 18 Petitions for amateur radio
restructuring.

If that's what you got from those comments, you need to
work on your reading comprehension, Len. I doubt very much
that "works in vehicular technology" was in my comments.

"Quitefine" is NOT a member of the worldwide
Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers (IEEE), a
professional association.

Neither am I, Len.

Membership in any professional organization has nothing to
do with the qualifications to be an amateur radio operator.
Nor does it have anything to do with "young'uns in ham radio".

So why go on about it?

That pretty much says it all - *you* have a problem
including young
people. The surreal part is that you're neither a
parent nor a radio amateur.

Lennie doesn't let little things like "no practical
experience"
keep him from expressing an "expert" opinion on a great many range of issues.

The "surreal" part of Miccolis and Robeson's diatribes is
that:

1. No pediatrician is required to be a "parent."

But *all* pediatricians are required to have extensive training
and practical experience with children. They are required to be
certified and licensed in a variety of ways to do their jobs.

Are you a pediatrician, Len? Are you trained, licensed, and/or
certified in *any* medical/pediatric specialty?

There is NO
such "requirement" in any academic organization to "be a
parent" in ANY degreed/titled work involving children OR
procreation of children.

But *all* in those jobs are required to have extensive training
and practical experience with children. They are required to be
certified and licensed in a variety of ways to do their jobs.

Are you a teacher, Len? Are you trained, licensed, and/or
certified in *any* educational/academic specialty?

2. (Miccolis) seems to disregard laws of physics
in that ALL radios work by the SAME physical laws,
regardless of human designations as to their application.

That's just plain wrong, Len.

[inconceivable that a claimed double-degree individual
would insist that ONLY licensed radio amateurs (who have
obtained a federal merit badge only in amateurism) can
express any opinion at all.

It's inconceivable because it's not true, Len. I've never said
that you or anyone else can not or should not give their
opinion.

What I have done is to point out your lack of qualification
and experience in certain areas.

You, on the other hand, have actually told people to shut up.

Big difference.

3. In the United States of America, ANY citizen has the
RIGHT
to comment to their government on ANY law or regulation
REGARDLESS of whether or not they have any "license" or
other "authorization" to "operate" under some rules or
regulations.

Who has tried to deny you that right, Len? Not me.

4. Neither Miccolis nor Robeson have ANY
"authority" to RULE on U.S. amateur radio regulations,

Nor do you, Len.

yet the seek to bar, to subjugate, to eliminate ANYONE
BUT licensed radio amateurs from even talking about it.

Len, that's complete and utter bull****. There's just no
other word for it.

I challenge you to show *any* evidence or example where I have
tried "to bar, to subjugate, to eliminate ANYONE BUT licensed radio
amateurs from even talking" about *anything*.

C'mon, Len. You've made that bull**** claim over and over again.
Now show us where I ever did anything of the sort.

I don't think you can.

Apparently those two control freaks do not understand
that NO FCC Commissioner or staff member is "required"
to possess an amateur radio license in order to offcially
regulate U.S. amateur radio.

SHow us your evidence, Len.

5. Miccolis- has NOT YET stated how many offspring
HE has parented.

Why should I? Would it make any difference to you?

He implies he has

Where?

but the number, gender,
are all big unknowns.

What difference would it make?

Your answer indicates what many have long suspected: that you
expect to be instantly recognized as an expert without having
to meet the requirements for a license.

It was suggested to Lennie that he take some of this
energy and
submit a proposal to the FCC to allow "engineers" either a free pass
or some sort of a "bridge" exam to get licensure.

Never did it.

Good thing, too. It's a terrible idea.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. A NON-applicable "request" NOT required.

That so-called "request" was simply a MISDIRECTION to try to
stop any further talk on ELIMINATION OF THE MORSE CODE TEST
for an amateur radio license.

As is quite obvious under any U.S. citizens' RIGHTS under the
Constitution (of the United States, NOT the
ARRL), "licensure"
in amateur radio is NOT REQUIRED to talk about GETTING INTO
amateur radio. To reiterate, NO FCC Commissioner or Staffer
is required to possess any amateur radio license in order to
lawfully regulate U.S. amateur radio.

You're not the FCC, Len.

Both of these control freaks have been invited to take their
"authority" and "shove it up their I/O ports."

Gee, Len, you've really made your point.

Seems to me, Len, that you can't take *any* opposition to your
views. If someone points out your lack of qualification or
experience, you think they are telling you to shut up, even
though they're not.

They never did it. However, they might have...and enjoyed
it.

Is that your idea of a good time, Len? ;-)

Tsk, tsk. A radio does NOT operate by different laws of
physics because some government agency designates it as
"amateur."

So what? "Physics" isn't the only consideration.

And Lennie's been asked to please show where ANYone, other than
him, has made said issue of it...

No answers.

TSK, TSK, TSK. MANY ANSWERS.

Where?

Apparently these two control
freaks do not have sufficient reading comprehension...or have
a psychological inability to separate their fantasies from
reality.

No, you just don't write well, Len.

Your writing is simply unclear, Len.

It's also assinine.

Stebie, the Avenging Angle of Dearth, the newsgroup's
counterpart to Elfren Saldivar, can only "reply" with a
series
of Personal Insults...which is little more than his RAGE and
ANGER and personal frustration showing clearly.

Sounds like you two have a lot in common, Len....

Jimmie boy,

There you go again. Why do you call names like that, Len?
Is there a reason you can't just call me "Jim", the way I
call you "Len"?

Why not just call me "Jim" or "N2EY", Len?

That might make you his "peer", Jim...

Can't have that!

PCTA Extra Double Standard. "Quitefine" and Stebie both
"allow" name-calling such as "PUTZ" and "gutless coward"
to others, yet object to their aliases or diminutive forms
of their given names.

Well, you can't be talking about me, then. All I call you is "Len" or
"Mr. Anderson". Or maybe some combination of those names.

Miccolis is NOT my "peer."

Why not, Len?

He has not identified his actual
place of employment, has not identified his own "parenthood"
(which he REQUIRES of others)

No, I don't.

, and has claimed to be a "radio manufacturer."

Yep. I'm with Southgate Radio. Not my day job, of course.

Here's a hint, Len: "Manufacture" means to make something. So anyone
who makes a radio set is a radio manufacturer.

Tsk, he is not even a member of any
professional association.

How do you know?

If I join IEEE, will I become your peer?

And you said there must have been fraud involved.
You accused ARRL and
the VEs involved of dishonesty. Right here. That's a fact.
Shall I
repost those claims?

Tsk, tsk. I wrote, some time ago, that the ARRL "sins by omission."

No, that's not what I'm referring to. It's about the licensing
of six-year-olds.

They do so often, especially in their publications
on the history of radio.

Such as? Tell us where it's actually done.

Our local club recently added two new licensees...both
9....No
record, but yet more evidence that there ARE "young 'uns"
entering
Amateur Radio.

Irrelevant, relatively isolated case.

Why is it irrelevant? It's right on target.

So, all you mental nine-year-olds, feel good about your sub-
teen intellectual prowess on passing the TEST. Continue to
scamper about your "private clubhouse" and generally behave
emotionally like kiddies about your "superiorities." Sooner
or later your kinder-kind MIGHT grow up. [I'm losing my
optimism on that]

The rest of us IN the radio-electronics industry will
continue
doing our adult things. We will pat you on the head when you
are nice and spank you when you misbehave.

Sounds like a threat of violence, Len.

I'd like to see you try!

Go to your room.