"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
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"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
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"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
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You are right, when the Ws were exhausted, they ran through the Ks.
Then
they started with WA and so on. The N prefix became available in the
very
late 60s or very early 70s. WA and WB predate the N prefix.

I don't know about all area's but I can say this, for the 8th
district...circa summer of 1961 they did indeed re-issue K calls. I
received KN8BHH, my friend received KN8BBL, another friend received
KN8DEN,
etc. however just a month or so later another group of buds received WN8
which turned into WA8 calls. Go figure.


Still haven't heard from Dan. Perhaps we could sked for a nice chat -
as
long as he can put up with a "newbie". Better keep it slow, say 30
words
per minute cw with no automated copy devices. I suppose if he pushes
me,
I
might consider 40. Not much more, however; I'm not up to that stuff
anymore. Of course, if push came to shove .... I might be willing to
give
the high-speed stuff a crack, but don't expect much from a former WN
prefix.

If he *really* wants to push the envelope, I'd be willing to take a
week
and
meet him using American Land-Line Morse. Should be good for a hoot.
No
more than 16, however, as I'd be using a mental look-up table. Not
enough
call for land-line Morse to make it worthwhile to get good at it. I
only
used it once in 1968. Of course, I hadn't copied Morse since 1969 when
I
retook the extra in 1993 .... at 20 words per minute ....


Haven't heard from me? This is the first time I saw this. Sure I'll
sked
ya. I'm on 3.575 every evening at 1900CST, that would be 2000Z. On
Sundays I am net control (local time).

I have not used the railroad code in 40 years, so I'll pass on that one.

The only thing that is automatic in my cw is my ability to copy. Should
still do well at 50 or so. If not we qrs.

Send me a e-mail and follow my SPAM catchers instructions. I don't give
a
rip who believe me here.

Dan/W4NTI




Hello, Dan

Should be fun. I could well loose, who knows? But I'll tell you what, I
hope both of us learn a bit of respect for each other. I honestly don't
know how well I'll do much past 40 as it has been quite a few years - but
I'm willing to give it a try. I will get your addy minus the spam catcher
and explain further.

Hang on to your shorts, it might be a bumpy ride LOL

Seriously, Dan, I hope we can end this one on a friendly note. I get
upset
sometimes with some of the threads. I bear no ill will against newcomers
nor old timers. I do hope you read what I stated concerning the 1X3 and
1X2
call signs. I was being honest there.


Must have missed that.

In any case, I'll be in touch. Wanna bet that we'll hear from Len on this
one? A beer? LOL

Only if he has a code reader on his computer and sound card interface... hi.

BTW, you are right about the KN prefixes. Those became the KX3 calls. At
the time, however, New York was the most populus state and the 2 district
was into the WB2 calls. I've still got my original novice license issued
in
1962 as WN2CJV which would have become a WB2 call. I'm willing to try and
take a digital photo of it and send it to you if you wish.

No need....I have my very first license in a file. KN8BHH, issued summer of
1961.
In fact this month (June).

There are
differences between districts. And I still abide by my thoughts that the
average WA or WB has been licensed longer than the average 1X2 or 1X3 call
simply because of the FCC and its' vanity call sign program.

Your probably right Jim, now a days having a pre vanity 1X2 or 1X3 means
nothing
because every one assumes you paid for it.


All other stuff aside, when did you use land-line?
Just before I went off to the military in 64. Was just getting into it, and
dropped out for many years. Haven't done it since.

How long have you been
licensed?
As stated above, got my first ticket in summer of 61, got the general 3
months
later. Went off to the military and after traveling around Asia and Europe.
I operated
from Thailand and not quite legally from Vietnam, and of course out of
Europe in
the 70s. I took my Advanced test in mid 70s while stationed at Ft.
McClellan, got
that in Atlanta. Then went back to Germany and took my Extra there at
Ramstein
Air Base. This was when the FCC was sending teams out to do that. Amazing.

I am not trying to say I'm a real old-timer; I'm not. I am
simply making the argument that due to the vanity call sign program, a
lot,
if not most, of the 1X2 and 1X3 calls are vanity calls.

You were licensed 43 years ago. Thats a old timer. Most of those older are
dead. Boy thats a cheery thought.

I agree about the call sign situation. W4XYZ licensed in 2001? What a
deal.

I also was WA3RJX
some 6 years *after* being WB2OSP. It is a matter of the call district.
If
you move, you loose (at least back in the days). I was N2JH in the early
70s, given the time to renew one's license, that was some 10 years and
more
after the WN2CJV (or even the WB2OSP) ticket.

As a Novice and new General I worked so many WN, WA,WB2's I thought that
is all there was on 40cw.

I dropped my K8 call in the mid 70s. When I decided I was going to stay
here in
Bama after I got out in 79. So I had to change my callsign due to the move.


Heck, maybe after we get a time and frequency (and the 4 call district
might
be tough except for 40 meters), perhaps we can get a few others on the
frequency.

Fine by me.
I'd almost bet that Hans could wipe us both out ... but we can see ....

I don't know....I know I have worked him several times on SSB in a contest.
Don't remember if I did in CW or not.

Tell ya what, if Lennie comes up on frequency on CW, I'm gonna quit right
then and there!

Let's give it a go.



73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA



Dan/W4NTI