On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 13:59:06 -0400, Dave Hall
wrote in :

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Exactly, as a certain faction (like yourself) who voted for Bush
continue to mistakenly believe Bush had a majority of the people in the
US vote for him (he didn't)

Then how do you explain how he won?


I explained this to you before -- read about Ivan the Terrible
(assuming you can find it on the internet). It probably also had
something to do with election fraud in Ohio and a few other states,
the extent of which will probably not be fully known until after the
Dems regain the WH.


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As many, many republicans have distanced themselves from Bush...

A few uncertain doubters does not constitute "many".


Dave, are you friggin' blind? The Republican party is splitting in
half and you don't even see it?


and to distance herself from some of her more
vocal compadres. I guess she figures that we'll
all forget her former leftist politics, and that
farce that was supposed to be universal
heathcare.


That you consider healthcare for our own people as leftist politics
while we continue to offer free health care to all the Iraqis who simply
ask for it illustrates your level of comprehension.

As is typical for you, you divert from one issue to another. I oppose
all forms of socialized medicine whether it be for us or Iraqi's.


I suppose you are able to pay for all your medical bills -- even
catastrauphic injuries -- right out of your own pocket, huh?


The majority makes the rules. It's fine that the
rights of the minority are considered but it
makes no logical sense that the needs of that
minority outweighs the needs of the majority.




It doesn't matter which group. When rights are being taken away or
infringed upon, the needs you speak of far outweigh any perceived
majority. You come across as "majority is always right" when it has been
illustrated and accepted the majority has been wrong, especially with
this administration.

What is considered right and wrong is usually
relative and depends upon the perspective of
the majority.


Wrong. Rights are not inherent to any majority group, despite what they
and you feel. you are not special,....rights extend to all in this
country, not merely your imagined moral majority.

That has nothing to do with the concept of what is "right or wrong"
and who sets the standard by which this is gauged.


Well, in the "right or wrong" category you are certainly in the
minority in this newsgroup. In fact, you -are- the minority.


And, like it or not, from the time we are little
kids in school, we learned that life is not
always fair, and that those in the majority set
the fads, trends, and rules whether the rest of
us agree or not.

Take slavery for example.


I already did. Get your own examples to illustrate how majority rule is
not always right.

Majority rule is always right in the context of the time it is
enacted.

During the time of slavery, the majority believed it was an acceptable
practice.


Wrong. There was bitter debate about slavery during the Constitutional
Congress. The reason slavery was left to the states was because they
felt that unity was far more important than slavery. The issue was
ultimately resolved during the Civil War, but existed long before.


Eventually the majority changed their belief and decided
that it was no longer an acceptable practice.


Wrong again. The 'majority' prior to the Civil War included only white
male citizens. After emancipation the 'majority' suddenly included
blacks as well as whites, and a much better representation of the
majority could be counted (although still not very well until after
the Fifteenth and Nineteenth Amendments, and the civil rights movement
of the 1960's).


In no time in recent history has the minority successfully bent the
will of the majority on major issues.


Again, wrong. You claim that a majority of people wanted Bush to be
president, yet only 30% of registered voters actually voted in the
election (some of them not voting because they were prevented from
voting, with the Supreme Court declaring that citizens do -not- have
any right to vote). Just 15% is not a "majority" by any stretch of the
imagination.

Enough with the semantics, Dave -- address the facts.


Change occurs when the majority
recognizes that the time is right for a different direction. It is not
a sudden thing, rather it is a gradual transition. Liberals have been
attempting to affect political and social change through the
indoctrination of young people and by the dissemination of liberally
biased news for some time. Fortunately, events such as the rise of
talk radio, the ability of people to seek alternative news sources
through the internet, and exposure of some of the purveyors of liberal
bias, has slowed down, if not reversed, this trend.


Oh good God -- you've been brainwashed, Dave. Either that or you're a
bona-fide paranoid. Get some professional help already.







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