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June 7th 05, 09:49 AM

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From: "bb" on Sun,Jun 5 2005 8:44 pm

Ahem, "almost 20 years ago" would be about 1985. Class D CB
was created in 1958...FORTY-SEVEN YEARS AGO. 27 years in
between are unaccounted for in Stebie's statement.

Steve is referring to 20 years prior to the advent of the No-Code
Technician, which happened sometime in the early 90's, so his reference
period is early 70's. Basically, he's saying that many, most, or all
hams entereing the ARS since the early 70's have Bashed it and are
worthless CBers.

Stebie doesn't have the word-laying savvy to express much except
contempt for those who do not agree with him.

Some of the world's greatest "word-layers" were also some of it's
most horrific personalites..."you-know-who" in central Europe in the
late 20's to mid-forties comes to mind.

The no-code-test Technician became effective in 1991.

Yes. Your point?

Going back 20 years before that would start at 1971.

Very good, Lennie! They teach you that at night school engineer
class?

"Eleven meter" CB had
already existed for 13 years by 1971 and the off-shore transceivers
were already well-established in the radio market then.

Uh huh...waiting for you to make a point other than mindlessly FOD
the group with irrelevent historical tidbits.

I am wondering how CB has anything to do with MY comments,
since I never mentioned CB radio...

An early
designer-manufacturer of CB radios, General Radiotelephone Co., of
Burbank, CA, has already filed for bankruptcy and closed its
corporation and location on Magnolia Blvd; the half-completed
mast is still visible on the roof of that building today.

Whew...

For a minute there I thought you might surprise me and actaully
make a point...A RELATIVE point, that is...!

Of course, Cecil put all that nonsense to rest years and years ago, but
some people pesrist with wrong thoughts.

I know. Many of us tried to show the truth in the non-amateur radio
world. To little avail. Those who continue their myths will have
none of the truth.

And there are non-Amateurs in this forum who would create and
disseminate their own myths.

Like Lennie Anderson.

"11 meter 'operators?'" The original "11 meter" CB users
required a license but never required any test. USERS.
Absolutely NO written form of "radio knowledge" was
required of any USER.

"Open pools?" There were "Q&A" books published before 1956
on ALL FCC written tests. BEFORE the Dick Bash publications.
That was way back in history when ALL the FCC radio regulations
were supplied as three-ring binder, loose-leaf pages.

ARRL, Ameco...

For amateur radio written exams, yes. There was an earlier
publisher of Q&A books which covered many different topics,
including the FCC Commercial License written exams. I tried
to obtain one of those in late February, 1956, couldn't and
resorted to simply studying the entirety of the available FCC
radio regulations of that time (quite small in comparison to
the five-volume bound set of Title 47 today).

Whoa! We're (not) impressed.

BTW...I point out that I studied and prepared for my license the
old fashion way and you make light of it...So...What are we to do with
YOU, Licenseless One?

All of those non-ham radios are in use by "riff-raff?"
Dick Bash is "responsible" for all the Q&A books published
in the 1950s? Yes to all implies the mighty Stebie,
"speaker for all hams and the 'ham community'."

Bash was a ham. A Mighty Morseman

Irrelevant to those who need Hate Objects.

Every venue has it's bad apple...Amateur Radio had Bash...RRAP has
Lennie.

Just as irrelevant to the fact that Bruce Perens, founder of
the No Code International interest group was a 20 WPM code-
tested Amateur Extra BEFORE he founded that group.

Good for him.

He had an ideal, prepared it, presented it, and used it
effectively.

In the process, he didn't violate a single American law, nor did
he find it necessary to villify, denigrate or otherwise demean other
Amateur Radio operators in the proces

Class C and D Citizens Band Radio Service is close to the
half-century mark and most of its detractors (and haters)
were either unborn or had not obtained any license when it
was created. "Class C" exists, expanded in permissible
frequencies, as "Radio Control Radio Service" in Part 95.
"Class D" is in the same part and called simply "Citizens
Band Radio Service."

Again, I am sure there is a point to be made here, however all I
see is more useless

Class A and B, on low UHF frequencies was discontinued
many years before. It would have been a year-plus older
than Class C and D had it continued. NONE of the original
four Citizens Band classes required any user to take any
written test for a CB license. Such licenses were
discontinued by the FCC when the number of CB users
reached about a half million or so; exact number is
irrelevant with the near-present-day number of CB radios
being estimated at 5 MILLION in use.

And we're S T I L L waiting for some point to be made.

WHAT does the history of the Citizen's Radio Service have to do
with changes in the AMATEUR Radio Service due to Bash/NCT?

"Pbthpththth" says Bill the Cat. Hear the Opus.

Actually, Lennie, it's "Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft"

LenNeverSayInTenWordsWhatYouCanObfus...

Steve, K4YZ