"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
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"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
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KC8GXW wrote:

But you still have to pay the VE fee, and have earned that
Tech in the first place. Not a giveaway or a free upgrade.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I was just being sarcastic because I have been told I have a
give
away tech license!

Well, whoever told you that was full of beans and didn't know
what s/he was talking about. Probably just sour grapes.

73 de Jim, N2EY


I said that. And I mean it. The tests today are a joke. Why you
ask?
Because the questions and answers are right there in front of the
person.
Sure he has to study a lot of questions. But there they are on the
test.
A give away.

And lets not even talk about the CW situation.

It's NOT numbers we need, it people that respect the traditions of
ham
radio and want to continue them. Its people that love ham radio and
don't want to use to to order a pizza.

Call me old fashioned and out of touch. It won't be the first time.

Dan/W4NTI



Is there really any need for much technical knowledge to obtain a ham
license anymore? Why a need for technical knowlege when setting up
and
operating a station today is simply plug-an-play? How many hams
constuct
any equipment they use on the air any more? The most tech knowledge
that
might be required is maybe how to build and put up and adjust an
antenna.
Perhaps the test should focus more on rules, regulations and proper
operating procedures. The most technical that hams get today is
knowing
how many frequencies they can store in the radios memory.


I am not all that concerned about the "technical knowledge" side of the
test.
I think basic technical knowledge is all that is really necessary.
Like
being
able to cut a simple dipole, understand the terminology, have a working
knowledge in block diagram format, for what is happening inside that
radio.

And I totally agree that the test should be heavy on rules, regs, and
PROPER
OPERATING PROCEDURES....like don't talk CB Crap on HF SSB. \

As you say Dan, with the joke they use for testing today, no
technical
knowledge is required anyway, just memorize the answers to the
questions
and off you go. So maybe if the tests were geared more to regs and
operating procedures, then even with the memoriziation some of it
might
soak in and maybe there would less cb type operating on the ham
bands.

We agree it lots here, eh?

It is pretty bad when as I heard not long ago on a 2 meter reperter,
"I
just got my license, can someone tell me what frequencies I can
operate?"
Cheeese.


Or what I heard on the 75meter EKTRA band......I wanna cut a new dipole
for 80m phone (First off what is 80 meter phone?)(I always thought it
was
75meter phone). Out of the 5 people in the group, one had it right.
Amazing.

Even wogie wussman passed the test, that in itself speaks volumns
about
how easy the they are.

He should have done real good the second time around...yuk yuk.

Dan/W4NTI



Hello, again, Dan

Yep, 75 is phone, 80 is CW. At least that was the reference back in the
days.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA





And for all those that are "confused".....here it is;

300/Fmhz = length in meters.

thus......300/4.0Mhz = 75meters.

300/3.75Mhz= 80meters.

and........300/3.5Mhz = 85.7meters.

see?

Dan/W4NTI



Hello, Dan

The numbers are only approximate and some of the "bands" don't fall where
you'd expect them to


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA