From: "bb" on Wed 8 Jun 2005 15:50


K4YZ wrote:
QUOTE from Chief Army MARS:

MARS has grown in all of the services throughout the world. It relies
on civilian and military MARS members to be available in case of
emergency or disaster to provide communications support. At such times,
MARS needs all of the support it can provide. Amateur Radio,
collectively with MARS, has made its mark in American history. Each
year provides new evidence of the important role it plays in the
service of the nation.

UNQUOTE

Since Lennie only believes that "reality" springs from URL's, he
can go to:

http://www.asc.army.mil/mars/history.htm

Been there, done that. :-)

Been to Fort Huachuca, too, (Hq Army MARS, off to one side of
the Military Intelligence School).


...to get it from the horse's mouth.

Stebie got the wrong end of his "horse" again. Tsk, tsk. :-)

He should have made some kind of remarks about the Buffalo
Soldiers. Fort Huachuca is the original home of them.


Silly Gunny, no one disputes what the Chief of Army MARS has stated.
They only dispute what you claimed, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur
Radio." Hi! Hi, hi!!!

Poor Stebie, even more brain-dead than Jim Hampton surmised.

All the fuss and furor over MARS was already done when Stebie's
famous statement ["Sorry, Hans, MARS IS amateur radio"]
was made. Stebie is trying to misdirect by pointing a finger
at "my error." Poor guy doesn't realize that when he points
his finger, four other fingers are pointing at HIM! :-)

Heh heh heh. Stebie CUTS AND PASTES from the government web
sites! [he didn't used to like that!] However, the "statement
of mission" is just worded in glorious self-illumination typical
to ALL unit or political organization statements. Stebie wants
to take all of those absolutely LITERALLY like a good little
soldier. Such shining lights will reflect off the medals he
bought for himself at www.grunt.com or similar. He likes to
soak in that light and pretend being the big hero.

MARS is doing an okay job for the military. Keeps civilians
occupied through their volunteerism and the military hopes
that will reflect good will towards the military. MARS *was*
good back in the Vietnam War era for phone patches to folks
back home. But...that was THIRTY YEARS AGO! [Vietnam War
ended for the USA in 1975] The U.S. Army even made that direct
statement on the Army's Center for Military History.

MARS is a part of SHARES (SHAred RESources), a loose organization
of 2500 U.S. government HF radio sites. It serves as a good
radio liason to other government agencies now. That has been
demonstrated in the SHARES/MARS exercises dubbed "Grecian
Firebolt" and has been written up in the Army Communicator, a
quarterly for Signal personnel (and some contractors). The M in
MARS is definitely MILITARY and the A stands for AFFILIATE and
not "amateur." Army MARS stations are manned by professional
warfighters. Volunteer civilian units can work with those
stations but only under Army control, including operations
outside the ham bands, not inside them.

Does the U.S. military need ham-assisted phone patches now?
Rarely. With the expansion of the DSN and the Internet, troops
in Afghanistan and Iraq can communicate with home directly
through many of the personal computers fielded in quantity in
both places...and found on larger warships...and certainly
found on nearly every military post today. In many cases
the military makes actual telephones available for direct
talking to family and friends back home...through the DSN,
through the Internet via VoIP. Such MARS activities are
good for troop morale.

MARS was never designed/implemented/devised to be a PART of
mainstream military communications. It isn't now. The U.S.
military long ago organized their communications through
planning and adapting and reformulating networks, systems,
equipment to handle all the Command-Control-Communications
(the first three Cs of "C4I") they need. That works. It has
always worked. Been there, done that...even controlled the
transmitter that FEC MARS used (on a third-priority term),
one out of three dozen used for the REAL communications.

All of the above I wrote today has been written by me in here
before. Apparently Stebie is way too selective in what he
looks for on Google searching. :-)

[Stebie is now going to compose a "YOU LIE, YOU LIE!" message]

Screum.