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June 9th 05, 11:55 AM

wrote:
John Smith wrote:
Haynie said:

1) "It's not that Amateur Radio is dumbed down," he
said. "People like
me have failed to keep up, and if you look in your heart,
you're going
to say the same thing."

He's right on the money. But many hams are *not* like him, yes?

Yes.

2) "...if you want people to come out of that examination
room in here
to be able to design circuits--you're in the wrong hobby."

Heck, I went *into* the examination room able to design circuits...

Of course, that's been obvious to everybody else around here
since
somebody first started selling spark rigs out of a catalog.

Yep. "He tightened all the loose screws"

Is it
somehow imperative that hams must be able to design current-tech
circuits or the sky will fall on the hobby? What's your point?

3) "I said, if we come down on the side of code, we're going
to make
the no-code people mad, and if we come down on the side of
the no-code,
we're going to make the code people mad..."

Ah, but then he continued ". . so the best thing for us to do is be
evenhanded, and make everybody mad," Haynie said, tongue-in-
cheek. "And
I think we're doing a good job of it." "

In other words the League has ducked out of the code test war
this time and put in the hands of the FCC.

They realize a no-win situation when they see it. Also, the ARRL
BoD has a wide range of opinions on the issue, so they came up
with a compromise and went on to other issues.

Do you have a problem with that?? I sure don't.

Your "selective snippages" are as a bare minimum
a bit of comic relief.

4) "...he predicted that the Commission will never reinstate higher code speed requirements as some have requested."

OBVIOUSLY . . wtf . . ?!

He's just letting people know not to expect it. Then again,
if you don't ask you'll never get.

5) "The FCC is not going to go back to 13 and 20 words
per minute, and
you can take that to the bank," he predicted. "It's not
going to
happen." The Commission went with the single 5 WPM
requirement because
it was "sick and tired" of dealing with medical waivers,
he said.

This is astounding new info or what??

Not at all.

Frankly, I'm simply amazed that FCC didn't just dump Element
1 two years ago when the treaty changed at WRC 2003. All they
needed was a one-paragraph Memorandum Report and Order saying
that they'd dealt with the issue back in 2000, and pending further
changes, everybody who passes any of the written tests
for a US ham license gets code test credit too. Or some such verbiage,
just like they did when they waived the code sending test.

But FCC didn't do that, even after getting a pile of proposals
to do so. In a month or so it will be two years and there isn't
even an NPRM out yet. If they go the entire NPRM cycle, it
could be a year or more before the rules change - *if* they
change.

Although he has become a pretty smart "politician"
and "diplomat"--it is
obvious code is given very little if any importance.

By whom?

The code *test* may be dropped, (actually I think it's very likely) but
Morse Code itself is a very big part of amateur radio in 2005.

Now you can argue
his words anyway you like--but you can't find one word of
his which
places ANY importance on it...

On the *test*.

He HAS said old amateurs have lost sense
of reality, that is right there in no. 1) ... argue that
anyway you
like--into looking like a fool...

Smitty I'm about 99% in agreement with what Haynie stated, I'm not
arguing his words at all, I'm arguing YOUR words. Which are
goofy,
naive attempts to twist reality around which we all see thru.
You're
quite terrible at this game you're trying to play John but hang around
here awhile and watch how the real pros harpoon reality in this group .
. maybe you'll get better at the game.

Good advice!

. . speaking of reality . . in the end when all the dust
settles CW is
everywhere on the bands today and it's gonna still be on the
bands long
after you and I have both expired. Get comfortable with it my
good man
because neither of us can do a bloody thing about it one way or
another. THAT's the real reality.

Tune down the low ends of the HF bands, in the evenings when most
of the younger folks aren't tied up with work, school, kids, etc.
There's a lot more going on than the voice modes on the high ends.

And by the way what's your callsign?

Good night.

73 de Jim, N2EY