K4YZ:

No. We are Americans first, fathers, good members of communities, etc...
about a hundred really important things--before we need ever list the
fact we are a ham...

I don't need "ham worship" and the guys who are drifting around after it
make me puke... that is just how it is with me...

I hang my master and Phd on the wall because those really did take hard
work and are truly a demonstration of proving myself a scholar... my ham
license hangs at the station because it is required by law!!!

I will give you a thousand reasons I am a worthwhile human being before
I ever get to the fact I am a viet vet and ham... those two things I
did for my own reasons... not really to serve any one else more than to
serve myself...

Even at 52 I come from an age when men were really men--it meant
something then to be a man, to protect the innocent, the weak, the
women, the children, American pie...

Today, I watch bellyachers lobby for more difficult barriers to be
placed in front of some--hell, I fought to make America the land of milk
and honey--and it is far different today than I would have it...

I can do one thing, and that is to "hand down" and pull up the ones who
will, all too soon, take my place--stand my responsibilities and hold
the reins...

One thing I wish to avoid until the day I die is becoming a bitter old
man decrying what a waste the youth are in this world--how deserving I
am--and how deserving all others--if you have not understood from my
words up to and at this point let me spell it out for you--SUCH "MEN"
make me sick and afraid it has all been for naught!

Warmest regards,
John

"K4YZ" wrote in message
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John Smith wrote:
"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
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John Smith wrote:
Haynie mentioned you in no 1), someone who won't admit they are
killing the hobby... you aren't anything but a self-centered jerk
with a big ego and self-opinion,

And you aren't anything but a know-nothing cber who couldn't pass
the
exam for a ham license if your miserable life depended upon it.

You are a silly old man, I am indeed licensed...

Not likely.

but that should make little difference...(SNIP)

It makes a LOT of difference.

It establishes from what point of reference that you make your
assertions. It's called an "informed opinion".

Lennie is an example of a lot of fluff without experience. He
"knows" a lot from what he cuts and pastes...no more...no less...

Just like you so far.

(UNSNIP...that argument is not what I am, but what the hobby
is and where it is going...(SNIP)

And you know this?

So far you've offered nothing but hit and run, anonymous quips with
little or no substantiation of your "opinions".

(UNSNIP)...you are a crafty old buzzard always anxious to
side track facts into a gutter of personal attacks and rants on
someones
present status...(SNIP)

And so far you've done/said nothing except to make your OWN "gutter
of personal attacks". So what's the difference?

(UNSNIP)....--too me--you just look like a damn street smart punk
which knows a few tricks--and dirty underhanded ones at that...

Lessee...You're anonymous...apparently unlicensed...not a bit of
substantiation of ANY assertion...

Yep..."damn street punk" WITHOUT the "smarts"...

Steve, K4YZ