From: Michael Coslo on Thurs 16 Jun 2005 12:52
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From: Mike Coslo on May 29, 9:57 pm
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Mike Coslo wrote:
Many people lament that there is not enough interest
in Ham radio by young people.
Agreed - but how much would be enough?
Dunno. I personally agree somewhat with Brian K's assertion that the
absolute number of Hams could indeed drop without serious problems.
On the other hand, I believe that we should have a good mix of ages.
Younger hobbyists have to be there to "take orders" from the
older ones? :-)
You'd like it if we younger folks took orders from you, but we won't.
Deal with it, Len.
Tsk. Jimmie sounds all upset. Nobody is telling him any "orders."
Not to worry. Those who've never served in the military won't
get bothered about taking orders.
However, "radio manufacturers" very much need to take orders. As
many as they can handle! :-)
Jimmie said he was a "radio manufacturer." Better give him an
order right now, keep him solvent. [or was that "soylent...?"]
Some of us were using computers back in the punchcard and paper-tape
days.
Yeah, like me! Ancient IBM mainframes that took up an entire room in
the late '70s. First personal size computer was the venerable Trash-80
with a tape drive around 1981. First computer hooked to a modem was a
C-64 a few years later. Got a number of the Commodore Amigas. Had a
A500, an A2000,A3000, and an A4000. Got the Macs starting with a II-CX,
then to a 7100, 7500, G3, G4, and now a G5. PC's from the 286, 386 PS2,
Several laptops, and some HP Pavilions at home.
Woweee! Keep that consumer market afloat with buy, buy, buy...
Ever BUILD your own PC, Michael? Like etch the PC, drill them
holes, solder them pins, PROGRAM the monitor ROM? No? Tsk.
Remember: You can't say "first personal" in here. That sort of
talk is CB trash and CBers are supposed to be the evil scourges
of radio, satan's henchmen on earth...
I've been around computers a while, despite diatribes to the contrary .
Tsk, tsk. When I was young we carved our own ICs out of wood....
:-)
To get an HF transceiver in their vehicles, both young and
old could buy a set of transceiver, antenna, microphone for
under $200 from Sears, K-Mart, Wall-Mart, etc. in the
morning and have it installed and working in the afternoon.
And it had a few channels, one mode and 5 watts of power at most.
23 or 40 channels is "few?" In an urban area of 10 million+,
yes, too few. :-)
But, "5 watts of power" can WORK THE WORLD!!! :-)
Only 5 Watts of RF output? Nay, see the General Radiotelephone
CB manufactured by the thousands here in beautiful uptown
Burbank. 35 Watts out with the "modification" clearly spelled
out in the instruction manual! :-)
The way many cb radios were used was in clear violation of the
Communications Act and FCC regulations.
Riiiiight you are Mr. Noblestoneofall...all CBers are dastard
souless lawbreakers and should all be taken out and shot.
All the righteous, noble, "federally authorized" hams deserve
a lifetime of respect and admiration for being scrupulously
honest with everything!
My experience has been that it must be a small "somewhat" indeed!
Is there some rule that "real electronikers" can't use reference material?
With ham radio among the mighty macho morsemen, ALL you need is
morsemanship. That's enough.
"Morse gets through when everything else will..." B. Burke, 2004
Real technicians don't look up pinouts either! ;^)
Oh? You "KNOW" every single tube, transistor, IC pinout by heart?
If you do, you're ten kinds of dum**** braggart, Michael.
What sort of antennas do *you* have, Len?
Two. But the number of covenants against them are only one and
that one was issued by the FAA. :-)
How many children have you parented, Len?
Ah! The Master Pediatrician accuses! :-)
Last time I looked, NO ONE in ANY discipline of electronics was
required to be a parent in order to work in that field! :-)
Would you accept an MD's signed test paper on sperm count? :-)
HOW MANY CHILDREN AS JIMMIE MICCOLIS "PARENTED?"
So far, we've not heard any answer in public...and are not likely
to. Jimmie wishes to be dominatrix here?
This NG is about amateur radio, Len. Something you are not a part of.
This newsgroup is about AMATEUR RADIO POLICY, Jimmie, NOT pediatrics
or How To Raise Kids. So far, we have to assume YOU ARE NOT A
PART OF THAT.
So you're old, Len. Big deal. You grunt and grumble, rant and rave more
than anyone here.
No, I don't. :-)
If we can celebrate those who *DO* things instead of simply consume
things, we might reverse that trend.
That has been going on in nearly all technological endeavors
for as long as I can remember. The DO-ers are celebrated.
Yep - like the hams who pioneered HF radio in 1923...
Woweee! Like they got TOSSED OUT of MF and had to go where
wavelengths were shorter than 200 meters...by ACT OF LAW!!!!
Some "pioneering!!!" The first of the "homeless" in radio and
now you say they were "pioneers?!?" Geez, talk about
rationalizations!!!
You mean like the person who posts their military and work experience
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
again,
oops, you missed one, Jim!
Awwwwwwww! You poor guys, never worked the Big Leagues of radio?
Well, somebody in here used to say (in a bad paraphrase), "It ain't
braggin' if ya done it!"
I did it. I ain't braggin. :-)
in a failed attempt to win the
praise and admiration of others, even though it has nothing to do with
amateur radio?
Tsk, tsk. That's a perfect description of Jimmie Miccolis!!! :-)
Or the person who says "I'm going for Extra right out of the box", but as of
5 years, 5 months and 27 days hasn't done so?
Tsk, tsk. No Holy Vows were taken in the writing of that. :-)
I can't be "ex-communicated." I'm still communicating... :-)
Or the person who talks endlessly about their supposed technical knowledge
prowess but cannot show a single home-made amateur-radio-related project
or practical article?
Woweeee!!! "Radio manufacturer" Jimmie shows ONE picture of a tube
rig "designed" and built in the 1990s? :-)
Fabulous...that's even better than the 30-year-old crib from
Superior
Electric on autotransformers "published" in the Electric Radio
webzine!
Wheeee...lots of real swell PRACTICAL things to do...nothing at all
like that damn useless "theory" that mighty macho morsemen hate so
much.
"Extra! Extra! Read all about it! Hams pioneer radio in 1923!"
Run right out and buy a copy for a dime from the newsboy! :-)