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June 17th 05, 12:47 PM

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From: Michael Coslo on Thurs 16 Jun 2005 12:52
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From: Mike Coslo on May 29, 9:57 pm
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Mike Coslo wrote:
Many people lament that there is not enough interest
in Ham radio by young people.
Agreed - but how much would be enough?
Dunno. I personally agree somewhat with Brian K's assertion that the
absolute number of Hams could indeed drop without serious problems.

On the other hand, I believe that we should have a good mix of ages.

Younger hobbyists have to be there to "take orders" from the
older ones? :-)

You'd like it if we younger folks took orders from you,
but we won't.
Deal with it, Len.

Tsk.

TS, Len. You're not in charge. Deal with it.

Jimmie sounds all upset.

Not me. You're the one SHOUTING and getting all worked up.

Nobody is telling him any "orders."

You'd like it if we younger folks took orders from you,
but we won't. Deal with it, Len.

Some of us were using computers back in the punchcard and
paper-tape
days.

Yeah, like me! Ancient IBM mainframes that took up an entire room in
the late '70s. First personal size computer was the venerable Trash-80
with a tape drive around 1981. First computer hooked to a modem was a
C-64 a few years later. Got a number of the Commodore Amigas. Had a
A500, an A2000,A3000, and an A4000. Got the Macs starting with a II-CX,
then to a 7100, 7500, G3, G4, and now a G5. PC's from the 286, 386 PS2,
Several laptops, and some HP Pavilions at home.

Woweee! Keep that consumer market afloat with buy, buy, buy...

I remember the 110 baud acoustic modems to connect to the '370
system at Uni-Coll.

Ever BUILD your own PC, Michael? Like etch the PC, drill
them
holes, solder them pins, PROGRAM the monitor ROM? No? Tsk.

Ever DESIGN and BUILD an HF amateur radio transceiver, Len? Not from
someone else's plans, but from your own design?

Didn't think so.

Remember: You can't say "first personal" in here.

What's wrong with "name"?

To get an HF transceiver in their vehicles, both young and
old could buy a set of transceiver, antenna, microphone for
under $200 from Sears, K-Mart, Wall-Mart, etc. in the
morning and have it installed and working in the afternoon.

And it had a few channels, one mode and 5 watts of power at most.

23 or 40 channels is "few?"

Compared to the frequencies any radio amateur can use, it's
very few.

In an urban area of 10 million+,
yes, too few. :-)

Too many, given how they were and are used...

But, "5 watts of power" can WORK THE WORLD!!! :-)

On the right frequencies, with the right mode and a skilled
operator. You wouldn't know about any of that, Len.

Only 5 Watts of RF output?

No. Input.

Nay, see the General Radiotelephone
CB manufactured by the thousands here in beautiful uptown
Burbank.

Did you work there, Len?

35 Watts out with the "modification" clearly spelled
out in the instruction manual! :-)

Seems like you endorse that sort of thing. Says volumes about
your character, Len.

The way many cb radios were used was in clear violation of
the Communications Act and FCC regulations.

Riiiiight you are Mr. Noblestoneofall...

Who?

all CBers are dastard
souless lawbreakers and should all be taken out and shot.

No, they should just follow the rules.

Using radio to avoid compliance with the law (such as speed
limits) is a violation of the Communications Act.

Failure to properly identify is a violation of FCC rules.

Modification of equipment to unauthorized levels of power
is a violation of FCC rules.

All the righteous, noble, "federally authorized" hams deserve
a lifetime of respect and admiration for being scrupulously
honest with everything!

Would you rather that hams followed Part 97 the way cb users follow
Part 95?

Real technicians don't look up pinouts either! ;^)

Oh? You "KNOW" every single tube, transistor, IC pinout by heart?

If you do, you're ten kinds of dum**** braggart, Michael.

Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, Len.

What sort of antennas do *you* have, Len?

Two. But the number of covenants against them are only one and
that one was issued by the FAA. :-)

How many children have you parented, Len?

Ah! The Master Pediatrician accuses! :-)

How many, Len?

Last time I looked, NO ONE in ANY discipline of electronics was
required to be a parent in order to work in that field! :-)

But *you* have asked FCC to exclude everyone under the age
of 14 years from any class of amateur radio license. Without
*any* example of problems caused by the licensing of young
people as radio amateurs.

So it's relevant to ask what experience you have as a parent.
It's clear you have none, and are trying to divert attention
from that fact.

Would you accept an MD's signed test paper on sperm count? :-)

There's much more to parenting than biology, Len. But you
wouldn't know that.

HOW MANY CHILDREN AS JIMMIE MICCOLIS "PARENTED?"

"You cannot answer a question with another question" - Len Anderson

It's not about me, Len. I'm not the one asked FCC to exclude everyone
under the age of 14 years from any class of amateur radio license,
without *any* example of problems caused by the licensing of young
people as radio amateurs. *You* are.

So far, we've not heard any answer in public...

Not from you.

and are not likely to.

It's not about me. I'm not the one asked FCC to exclude everyone under
the age of 14 years from any class of amateur radio license, without
*any* example of problems caused by the licensing of young people as
radio amateurs. *You* are.

Besides, what level of parenting would you respect? From
your behavior here, it's clear it wouldn't matter how
many children I'd parented or what they accomplished. You'd
find a way to make fun of them. It's what you do - we've
seen it plenty of times.

This NG is about amateur radio, Len. Something you are not a part of.

This newsgroup is about AMATEUR RADIO POLICY, Jimmie, NOT
pediatrics or How To Raise Kids.

You have asked FCC to exclude everyone under the age of 14 years from
any class of amateur radio license, without *any* example of problems
caused by the licensing of young people as radio amateurs. Yet you have
no apparent experience as a parent. Tsk.

So you're old, Len. Big deal. You grunt and grumble,
rant and rave more than anyone here.

No, I don't. :-)

Maybe John Smith does more these past few days...

Maybe you and he are one and the same.

If we can celebrate those who *DO* things instead of simply consume
things, we might reverse that trend.

That has been going on in nearly all technological endeavors
for as long as I can remember. The DO-ers are celebrated.

Yep - like the hams who pioneered HF radio in 1923...

Woweee! Like they got TOSSED OUT of MF and had to go where
wavelengths were shorter than 200 meters...by ACT OF LAW!!!!

The "professional experts" thought those frequencies were
useless - that's why amateurs got them.

You mean like the person who posts their military and work experience
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
again,

oops, you missed one, Jim!

You're right, Mike.

You mean like the person who posts their military and work experience
over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
again,

in a failed attempt to win the
praise and admiration of others, even though it has nothing to do with
amateur radio?

Tsk, tsk. That's a perfect description of

Len Anderson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Or the person who says "I'm going for Extra right out of the box", but as of
5 years, 5 months and 27 days hasn't done so?

Tsk, tsk. No Holy Vows were taken in the writing of that. :-)

You haven't done it.

Or the person who talks endlessly about their supposed technical knowledge
prowess but cannot show a single home-made amateur-radio-related project
or practical article?

Woweeee!!! "Radio manufacturer" Jimmie shows ONE picture of a tube
rig "designed" and built in the 1990s? :-)

More than what you've done.

Fabulous...that's even better than the 30-year-old crib from
Superior
Electric on autotransformers "published" in the Electric Radio
webzine!

Who did that? Not me.