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Old July 11th 05, 03:52 PM
K4YZ
 
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b.b. wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


BB say he oesn't


The very, very small mind of Robeson thinks it's a baaad thing to call
me. He lies awake at night thinking of names to call people.


Nope. You just fit a mold, Brain.

you hacked up the post enough so that I not sure but I think BB said
you gotta love Stevie

I disagreed

I do disagree with more folks that just yourself Stevie


The prozac people gotta love Steve.


Why?

The FCC could of course have allowed it to techs and frankly they
should have

Why?

Because it is a NoCode band and logicaly should not require a code test
to use it if code is forbidden

(A) It's not a "band". It's five discreet channels.


so?


Mark's logic is perfect. Steve's reply is not applicable.


No his isn't and yer mine is.

(B) The mode restriction is due to other adjacent channel users
that we must dovetail with...Not due to any altruistic debate over
Morse Code use or testing.


and I am as cappable as they are or you are of using USB on the bands
or channels or whatever you care to call em

since Morse Code is forbidden there there is NO logical reason that
Morse Code test should be required in order to operate there, or at
worst a tech liecnsee with CSSE for the general writen test, should be
able to operate there


Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!!!


Not until the FCC says otehrwise, Brain.

The 5Mhz channels still fall below 30Mhz.

So what?

Is it a newsflash to you that S25.2 has changed?

There is NO LEGAL magic at 30Mhz there was but no more

Sure there is.


Nope


It's all PFM for the followers of St. Hiram.


I follow the FCC, and they say it requires an Amateur license to
operate on those "channels". Those channels fall below 30Mhz. The
present ITU document that facilitates international amateur radio
regulations permits individual administrations to test for Morse Code
competency for access to HF.

The United States still requires Morse Code testing for access to
HF.

YOU need to read how it's worded.

The international treat gives individual administrations the


yes I know that


Obviously not.

You've made statements that indicate you don't understand.

but given the only legal barriar to assgining freqs was the treaty the
FCC was free to assign them to tech's

If they can do that then there is NO legal magic

Indeed as BB has pointed out Techs are allowed to operate below 30mhz
NOW which you claim is illegal


There you go lying again.

I very specifically delineated under what circumstances "Techs"
may operate on HF.

You go read the rules before you lecture others


I have.

You're the one with the comprehension deficit.

Hmmm? I don't think so. Tech's with a 5WPM Farnsworth CSCE can.


There's no "Farnsworth CSCE" in existance, Brain.

Guess what...?!?!

The United States is in compliance with the treaty.


Never said otherwise


I didn't see you say otherwise either.


Sure he did.

When he said that there was no longer a treaty that permitted code
testing.

He was wrong.

There's a frequency, I think 5.170 off the top of my head, that all
amateurs in Alaska are allowed to use for emergencies. Includes
Technicians. Oooops. Violates the defunct treaty.

Several points:

(1) The exact frequency is 5167.5KHz...or 5.1675MHz if you
prefer) ...However it's restricted to stations (ALL FCC licensed
stations...) in or within 50 miles of the State of Alaska, and is
strictly for Emergency use only. One discreet channel. And it's not
an "Amateur" channel. Amateurs are allowed on this frequency as an
accomodation to safety. A real stretch to cite it as a "violation" of
any treaty.

(2) The treaty you refer to is NOT "defunct". It is still very
much in force. It HAS been ammended, however present United States
rules and regulations as they pertain to the treaty are in compliance
with said treaty.

so he should have defunct provision

What? Huh?


defunct provision


grow up

I have. And someday you will too. But not today, apparently.


nope you haven't


He's the Dick Clark of Amateur Radio. The USA's most immature Extra.


Nope....we'll hold that "honor" for you, Brain.

Brain and Markie on the same "team"...A gene pool that still
doesn't come up to a 2 digit number...

Steve, K4YZ