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Good grief. Take a breath there. I really don't know if you're being
gruff
with a reason or if you are somehow insulted by Jim's attempt to caution
at
what "experts" may say at any given time.
Jim went and punched my buttons again, he's really good at it, it's all
HIS fault dammit . . . !
heh heh. Can I actually begin to believe that I am having a "fun" exchange
with you, Mr. Kelly?
You seem way too defensive,
ME? Defensive?! You gotta be kiddding! I've been called a lotta things
over a lot a lot of years by a lot of people but that's a new one.
Well, after all, you are discoursing with me, and it really did seem just a
little on the defensive side. Maybe a misinterpretation on my part.
I think bottle feeding is the preferred mode today,
isn't it?
Definitely not from my vantage point in my particular world. I'm
responding to Kim here too since her comments on the subject are very
similar to yours. Problem is that being "retired" for a couple years
drove me batty so I went out and picked up an industrial machine
design/build project. It's coming together fast at this point and I
don't have much time now to go keyboarding here so I need to keep this
as brief as possible and get back to work.
Ah. Don't get caught outside the door (ummm, you'd have to read the book,
"Prey" to understand). GRIN I think you meant you were responding to
Dee, too, as you are directly responding to my comments--er, this is Kim
here--above. I can only wish I'll get to retire and get to play a lot at
ham radio before the company I work for ends up sending all our work
"elsewhere" for other people to do.
I have three daughters 41, 35 and 33. All are professionals in various
fields. The eldest is single and in Louisville, no kids, the middle one
is local, has four kids and is a stay-at-home mom. The youngest is also
local, has a 3-year-old daughter and works part time out of her home
office.
Sounds like a cut across the average for even around here, I'd say. I am 50
and I've resembled any one of them (well, except for the single part--I
never got to be "single" for any real length of time. Married pretty much
outta HS, divorced three years later, a year after that began a 14-year
relationship with my long-time, and still, friend; now married 16 years and
this is it. No more.
The two locals are part of a mob of thirtysomethings, maybe 12 all
told, family, classmates, etc. It's basically a sorority.
I understand. This sounds kind of the way my younger sister, now about 45
or so, lived her life. Always had a clutch of girlfriends to "run around"
with and play the suburban mom/wife with. I was witness to this for a
couple of days and ran screaming away from it. Moms who just seemed to love
getting up, loading x-number of kids into their vehicle as the
drive-to-school mom for that week, run around and do errands--some even for
the other moms--, etc., etc. I mean, I have an office job and have even
lived in a cubicle for an extended period of time, but PUHLEEZE put the
brakes on when it comes to that kind of happiness....LOL
Almost all of
them are educated and they all live in better-than-average
circumstances here in the suburbs of the northeast corridor. I'm not
certain on this point but I don't know of any who are not in their own
homes. This not Texas or Michigan which brings up the possibility of
some differences in demographics plus I'm not really plugged into what
"average" actually means around here. Very few of these women work full
time. Some peck at part-time jobs. About 2/3 of them are stay-at-home
moms.
Believe it or not, you are describing pretty darned average for around here.
I'll never forget mid-chewing on a tuna sandwich a couple of years ago as
the 22-year old on the other side of the cubicle wall was having a melt-down
because her childrens' "nanny" and house maid were embroiled in a real
argument over whose responsibility it actually was to be sure the baby was
ready for mum and pop in the afternoons when they get home from work!!!!!
WHAT???!!!
Several times a year they all clump together for some birthday or
holiday gathering and I'm usually part of it and is where I make my
"observations". Not to ignore the fact that I also have gobs of
hands-on experience from the "bad old days" Jim cited when the
marketeers supposedly glorified bottle-feeding and sold it. Which I
dispute.
Well, Jim? Have you anything to say about whether you were actually making
it the bad ol days, or whether you were drawing a picture of how "we" like
to listen to and believe the, uh, experts, when they really may only be
spewing what gets them the buck that particular day? I think it's the
latter and that Mr. Kelly is misunderstanding your intention. But, even
with an intention such as he may believe, this has made for an interesting
topic in this here amateur radio newsgroup...heh heh
I never counted heads but this mob has a virtual army of under-12 type
kids. Breast feeding amongst this bunch is overwhelmingly prevails.
Once in awhile a bottle has shown up here and there but I don't know if
it was "pumped" or if it was Enfimile . . (sp? Been a LONG time!). So
that's where I'm coming from for whatever it might be worth.
Well, imagine the lifestyle you describe, above, and trying to lug around
bottles, etc. I mean, I did it, but MAYBE (big maybe) if I had it to do
over, the ease of breastfeeding would bring a bigger appeal next time
around. I bet if you ask your daughters or their friends, though, that they
are breast pumping. It is so commonplace today that women walk through our
halls at work non-chalantly (sp?) carrying the apparatus with which they do
the pumping, often in an unused office or in the restroom.
Dee wrote:
"Well when I was planning to have children, I sat down and evaluated
the alternatives based on my lifestyle and the technology available to
me. I ended up working full time and choosing breast feeding for both
children. I didn't care one bit for historical precedence or political
correctness".
Exactly the way I'd expect an engineer to deal with the matter.
Yee-haw!
Kim W5TIT
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Kim W5TIT