-=jd=- wrote:
On Tue 12 Jul 2005 09:45:57p, m II wrote in message
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-=jd=- wrote:
However, neither have any significant
bearing on the issue at hand regarding why islamic extremists yearn for
the destruction of modern western society.
(snipped for brevity)
If the 'West' stopped killing them and stealing their land and
resources, you may be surprised at how quickly their attitudes would
change.
That has to be among the most naive statements I have read so far this
year.
I think it's too late to say "get out of Iraq and stop propping up the
Saudi royals and they'll go away". The original point of Al Qaeda was to
overthrow the Saudi monarchy. But it's metastasized into a much bigger
mission of "kill anybody and everybody who doesn't believe exactly as we
do". In that case, they'll never run out of people to kill, and if they
do, 95% of the world will be dead and the jihadin will be forced into a
hunter gatherer lifestyle.
The Israeli atrocities in Palestine
and vice-versa
alone have guaranteed another generation of enemies.
I think that in the Arabian eye,
generally speaking, both the US and Israel are one and the same entity.
Not exactly. Though, the following saying applies, "The friend of my enemy
is also my enemy". In any event, my experiences have shown me that
Jihadists resent the success of modern western society and they see it as
an abomination that must be eradicated for their screwed-up faith to hold
water.
They simply can't understand why Allah hasn't blessed THEM with all our
goodies.
There are now three generations of displaced people living in refugee
camps. Over four million human beings forced off their farms and out of
their villages. It's obscene.
Stuff happens. That situation has repeated itself all throughout history.
If you want to get all righteous about displaced peoples in modern times,
look at most any underdeveloped country on the African continent.
It would have been easy for the Arab governments to eradicate the
refugee problem by resettling the refugees in their own lands. Jordan is
95% Palestinian. Instead, the corrupt Arab rulers kept the Palestinians
as refugees living in ghettoes in the hope that they would form the
nucleus of a warrior class that would push Israel into the sea. And they
have become warriors, only they're committed to killing not just
Israelis but the entire world, including the Arab sheiks who created the
permanent refugee problem in the first place. Talk about unintended
consequences.
Israel now has over fifty percent of it's population recently immigrated
from Russia. The US taxpayer supports that whole artificially made mess.
It's time for that to end. I say we surround both of them and force them to
duke it out. Winner take all. Each side will have 6 months to garner
whatever support that can scrape together before the opening round. After
that, there will be no breaks allowed until it's over. And before someone
suggests it, no pay-per-view coverage allowed.
Damn!
Israeli settlers threw a molotov coctail at this kid.
http://www.halturnershow.com/18a.jpg
http://www.halturnershow.com/IsraeliAtrocities.html
That's Turner, granted..but he didn't make the pictures.
http://www.desert-voice.net/israeli_attrocities.htm
http://www.nogw.com/israeliatrocities.html
http://www.uscrusade.com/forum/confi...ames/read/1364
You found links detailing alleged Israeli atrocities?! Imagine that! Well,
here's a google link to a simple search for Palestinian atrocities. I see
*at least* 10 pages worth of links. I, for one, see the whole mess as akin
to a mutual afray. Others, like yourself, feel compelled to support one
side or the other. That depth of gullibility deserves a chuckle! Both sides
are to blame on *ALL* accounts. They both perpetuate the situation equally.
I don't see how an unbiased observer could come to any other conclusion...
Yeah, it started out as the Arabs trying to kick the Jews out, but both
sides have their fair share of atrocities now.
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