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Old July 17th 05, 08:32 PM
Jim Hampton
 
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From: on Jul 16, 10:51 pm


an_old_friend wrote:
your point in these looks like biweekly updates?


Simple:

They provide a running record of the number of licensed
amateurs in the USA, by license class. Growth and decline
over time can be seen. And the information will be preserved
as long as rrap is archived somewhere.


Oh, woweeee. Is that like "preserved for posterity?" :-)

Don't QRZ and Hamdata do any "archiving?"

I'm sure the FCC does "archiving." After all, they are the
ones granting the licenses, keeping the database... :-)


It should be noted that the number of US hams grew slightly after the
rules changes of April 2000, peaking in early 2003. Since then, all the
gain has gone and the totals are now almost 10,000 below what they were
before the rules changes.


Based on "archived data" on Hamdata.com, the number of
individual licensees on 16 July 2003 were 738,787. The
number of individual licensees on 16 July 2005 were
721,542. That's a difference of 6,835...HARDLY anything
close to "almost 10,000 below." Turns out that 6,835 is
68.35 percent of 10,000 and a LOT closer to two-thirds.

I'm just using the total number of individual licensees.
If I were to use "only" those who were not in the grace
period, that number would be SMALLER than that, even
farther from 10,000 that you state.

So far, you haven't been able to do much in the way of
Real Numbers, Mr. Engineer. Too much diesel smoke from
the engine sooting up your notes? Tsk.

Well, okay, maybe its all that "effort" to download the
FCC publicly-available database clouded your thinking, right?
You DO download that all by yourself, don't you? DSL you
got, right? Then do the sorting by fields to get what you
want? Did you write the program yourself or did you have
help? Let us know, okay?

Myself, all I need is to glance at Hamdata or QRZ website
and trust them. shrug In here we have YOUR "service,"
right? [ e pluribus micollis ] [sounds like a microbe...]

Did you know that your "service" postings for posterity
have now reached "1800" posts on Google? Actually its only
about 1200 by Google count...I used "1800" because that is
about like your math of "almost 10,000"..."1800" is "almost
like" 1200. :-)

No, that's wrong! "800" is "almost like" 1200! But the
Google message count hasn't changed! Amazing...you post
more and it totals up less! :-) [fun with numbers!]

So, Jimmah, what about the two Technician classes getting
close to the 50% point? No snarly gotta-love-morse comments
on that? Didn't you try to say all those Technicians were
going to drastically DROP in numbers a year or so ago?
Why haven't they dropped, oh servant seer to the grope?

Quick, waste everyone's time with your old PCTA mantras
chanted in here!

dit dot



Hello, Len

I wonder what the number of engineers with BS or higher degrees is doing
these days? Since we export jobs to India (for the smart stuff) and China
(for the slave labor stuff), no one feels a need to know anything.

This is not a rant for Morse (I think you know me better than that); rather
a question as to whether or not folks care to expend even one iota of effort
to learn anything of substance. We have more mystics around now and few
folks of substance. I had to chuckle about a new website for hams, cbers,
and folks that like to discuss *theoretical physics*?!?!

Right.

Perhaps we should hire a priest to sprinkle some Holy Water on the group to
fix everything LOL.

All one needs is a scientific calculator or compooter and punch the numbers
in. Funny how some folks can't even make change without a calculator. Just
punch the number into the calculator. Uh, was that +i or -i ... or was that
j? Impedance? Um .... is that like series or parallel resistors? Just
punch the numbers in. I certainly hope that someone understands what they
are punching in.

Gawd, what are these things? Resistors, but how are they connected.
Someone said something about a bridge? Now what?

Ohm ohm on the range .....

Have a good one, Len. I'm heading to the 'fridge to get a couple of tall,
cool 807s.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA