an_old_friend wrote: 
 Dave Heil wrote: 
  an_old_friend wrote: 
   Dave Heil wrote: 
  an_old_friend wrote: 
  Dave Heil wrote: 
  an_old_friend wrote: 
  Dave Heil wrote: 
  I can any definifation I care to I don't have to choose the same one as 
  you do 
   
  When your "definifations" mean something other than what is commonly 
  accepted, you make it impossible to communicate with others.  Of course 
  you've pretty much done that with your misspellings and grammatical 
  abortions. 
   
   
  only to narrow minded people that everything spoon fed to them 
   
  Gee, Mark, don't you get it?  You are one of the narrow minded people 
  who wants to be spoon fed.  You want amateur radio to be easier in order 
   
   
  No not at all, I want the ARs to respect the liberites of all Americans 
  myself included 
   
  Manure!  Nothing in amateur radio takes away any of the "liberites" 
  granted by the Constitution. 
   
   
   the code test does indeed do so 
  
  As with any number of things of late, you're simply wrong. 
 
 IYO opinion 
 
 doesn't make it so 
 
Here's a plain, simple fact: The license requirements are 
determined almost entirely by someone's opinion. 
 
For example, why is the written test for Extra 50 questions 
rather than, say, 100? Or 25? 
 
For that matter, why do Advanceds an Generals have to take the 
same test to upgrade to Extra? 
 
The Advanced and Extra licenses don't add any bands, modes or 
power level to General privileges. Why is more testing required 
for those licenses? 
 
Etc. 
 
In all cases the reason is the same: FCC's opinion says it's 
a good idea. 
 
  you want to deprive american of their rights if they don't jump though 
  the same hoops you did 
   
  You have no Constitutional right to an amateur radio license. 
   
   
   I have a right to anything not denied to me by the constition of the 
   USa unless regulated by treaty since the constitution of the US and the 
   treaties we sign are the supreme law of the land 
 
An amateur radio license is a privilige, not a right. 
 
  Oh, you have a right to attempt to pass an amateur radio exam but you 
  aren't guaranteed success. 
 
Exactly. 
 
 The "constition" doesn't address or regulate 
  motor car licensing but you still have to pass a test in order to obtain 
  a driving license.  It can be revoked by your state or denied if you 
  have a medical or mental condition rendering you a hazard to others. 
  Deal with the fact that you don't a right to something simply because 
  you want to do it. 
 
 But to use your analogy I am propected from making me take 
 a test on the use of the Buggy whip in order to drive 
 
That's true - but buggy whips aren't used much on the roads of 
America by people driving cars. Morse Code is very extensively 
used on the MF/HF amateur bands by radio amateurs operating 
amateur radio stations. 
 
The "buggy whip" argument just doesn't hold up. A more valid 
argument would be that you don't want to have to answer 
questions on driving at night, because you only intend to 
drive in the daytime, nor questions on driving in ice and 
snow because you live in a place that rarely if ever has 
those weather conditions. 
 
   Nothing in the Consittution allows the FCC to cintinue codetesting , 
   and nothing in the treaty gives it that power there the power does not 
   exist in law 
 
  Nothing in the U.S. Constitution prevents the FCC from administering a 
  morse code test for amateur radio licensing.  You have no right to an 
  amateur radio license. 
 
 Nothing gives it he power to impose an uneeded test 
 
Whether a test is "needed" or "unneeded" is a matter of 
opinion. Nothing more or less. 
 
 I have a right to a fair test 
 
That's true. "A fair test" means that everyone applying for 
a license at a particular time has to meet the same basic 
test requirements. 
 
IOW, if someone has a Ph.D in EE, or is a member of some 
organization or other, they don't get a pass on the exam. 
 
  I opose hazing ritual frat boy rituals for access to the public 
  airwaves 
   
  I opossum your view. 
   
   
   and the Constitution of the US 
  
  Okay, I opossum the Constitution. 
 
 You support frat boy **** 
 and don't bother to use language as you 
 demand I do 
 
Your example is not one to be emulated. 
 
  to accomodate you.  You want explanations about 5 MHz modes to be in 
   
   
  No I want people to answer questions aksed instaed of droning on about 
  irelavant garbage 
 
Sounds like "internet disease" to me - the desire to have 
everything spelled out in custom-made explanations rather 
than having to look anything up or exert some mental 
effort to understand the available information. 
 
The refusal to use a spellchecker when one is obviouslysorely needed is 
a clear symptom. 
   
  Everything you needed for an answer was right before you--spelled out. 
  That, of course, might have been the problem. Next time, ask Hans for 
  the aural version. 
   
   
   not it wasn't 
  
  Yes, Mark, it was.  Your repeated denials of reality are just making you 
  look stupid. 
 
 He did not answer the question of wether CW was premitted 
 
Yes, he did. By direct quote of the relevant sections of 
Part 97. 
 
If you won't make the effort to use correct grammar, spelling, 
punctuation and capitalization, why should anyone make the 
effort to answer your questions? 
 
If you won't make the effort to look up the relevant rules and 
understand them, why should anyone make the 
effort to answer your questions? 
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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