K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
Observations:
- Although the majority of individuals who commented on the 18
proposals supported code testing, FCC proposes to completely
eliminate it.
Amazing, isn't it?
why that is the way the system is set up
why are you amazed it is being followed
It's not being followed if the public says "A" and the government
does "B".
yes it is the public is allowed coment, not control
the system as I understand it at one time did not even allow coment by
the public
this is not a democratic govt but a republican one
They ask for public opinion then say "We'll do what we want
anyway..."
they have to ask for it
so they do
you can't make listen to it
Sure you can.
not realy you can try
gorw up and learn how the world works
Why don't you, Deviant Boy?
I have. I know how it works. you don't
- There were a lot of ideas in the 18 proposals other than the code
test. FCC simply denied all suggestions for change *except* dumping
Element 1. Free upgrades for Advanceds and Novices? New entry level
classes? More HF bandspace/modes for Novices and Tech Pluses? "No" to
all of them.
They said it in 98...They want to reduce all administrative burden
to an absolute minimum...
The fewer regulations there are on the books, the less enforcement
they have to do. I am surprised they haven't tried to "outsource"
their enforcement duties.
I do hear rumous they have looked into that
Uh huh.
Rumors.
even in agreeing with you can't be polite
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
- The changes of 2000 brought a lot of upgrades and some short-term
growth, but now the number of individuals with unexpired US ham
licenses is almost 10,000 below what it was in May of 2000. Nor has
there been any sort of "techno-revolution" from the reductions in code
testing.
Predictions:
- There will be a lot of debate and commentary. But in the end FCC will
just dump Element 1 and make no other changes.
I'm still holding out for 5WPM for Extra, but prudence says you're
right.
a few sign of light stevie
- There will be a lot of upgrades and a short-term peak in licenses.
But not long term growth.
There never has been, there never will be. Reducing testing,
either the number of written test or the 13/20WPM Code tests, has not
done a thing to move the service forward.
esp with attitudes like your it will be hard
It's not MY attitude that needs to be dealt with, Markie.
it certainly is
as you diatribe against Kim clearly shows
It's the attitudes of the people who keep making these assinine
assertions about how this change or that change is going to be the
salvation of the Amateur Radio service.
Nobody is saying that only the oponents of change are saying someone is
saying it
It will certainly help but you may yet manage to help kill the ars
stevie
I hope you will then be happy but I doubt it
you likely will find some way in your head of blaming me personaly
The FCC has said it so many times now they even believe thier own
rhetoric and repeat it in this NPRM.
You saying the FCC was lying when it said it found no reason for code
testing besides the treaty. It found none, none have been advanced that
meet the laugh test, and now they are lowing the boom on your egomania
- The HF/MF bands will not be overrun with more activity.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....For a while there will be...All those new
"Generals" will plop down some bucks on HF stations, work some DX, then
go back to whining about how tough it is to get to Extra.
yea right
It happened with "Novice Enhancement"
wouldn't know, but I doubt it
It happened with the introduction of the NCT.
not likely, it almost can't have
It happened with the last Restructuring round.
nope I was there
What makes Deviant Markie even the least bit doubtful that it
won't happen THIS time?
looking at reality
grow up and drink your sour grapes
What sour grapes?
yours
the sour grapes you ares pilling all over the group
It happened. Three times.
I know better on at least one of those case
- There will not be a "revolution" in technology used by hams brought
by the new folks.
They've had their chance since 1991 to do that if they wanted.
if they wanted?
If they wanted, Markie.
right you are lazy and let other do your work for you
W H E R E are all the "engineering types that the NCT was
supposed to bring into Amateur Radio?
Stevie can't coment on the claims made by those before NCT but I have
seen your (lack of) track record for honesty and do not accept your
accessment
beside it is clear you did not do YOUR part in bring that about
what have you done to advance the radio in your time as a ham
A lot more than you, Markie. Starting with being an Elmer and a
VE. Add to that ARES, MARS, etc etc etc
realy lets see I am not aloowed to be a VE done ares stuff, not done
anything with Mars. I elmer (even elmer generals and extras in digital
modes)
but all that is operating. what have you done to advance radio?
I have tried to add a mode or band or something each year to my
operating
I have not made it (was just too busy moving and building) but I try
you just want to sit back and let "Them" carry the freight
There's that "carry the freight" line again.
yes becuase it is true you want everyone else to work while you rest on
your laurels
Still not applicable, but at least you spelled "freight" right
this time.
yep it is
you still have not advanced any occasion when you have even tried
something new on the air
- The focus will shift to a debate about widening the 'phone subbands
or even having no mode subbands at all.
As I was saying in another thread...!
been around as long as I have been likely longer
No doubt.
Steve, K4YZ