RadioBanter - View Single Post - Busting Lennie Rants..."It's a Year Round Thing..."

July 25th 05, 07:45 AM

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From: "K4YZ" on Sun 24 Jul 2005 05:53

wrote:
From: Leo on Jul 23, 11:23 am

While the ubiquitous ball-point pen is used for making notes
in ham "logs," the precise frequencies noted down are kept
accurate by the PLL or DDS in modern amateur transceivers.

Nope.

What do you mean "nope," opie?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

What you use then, big PCTA extra of the Double Standard, a
couple crates of crystals?!?!?

Nope...Common sense, a signal generator and a spectrum analyzer.

The precise frequencies are "kept" by the station licensee who
ensures that his or her station is kept in good operating order.

Yeah, riiiight...the extra can do "laying on of hands" and
instantly tell (by magic of some kind of telepathy) what
frequency he is tuned to....

Nope.

But I don't depend on that digital display to be 100% accurate.

The FCC says "be sure", and I do.

It is additionally noted that Leonard H Anderson had nothing to do
with the creation for the aforementioned PLL or DDS that he's
attempting to brag on.

Tsk, tsk. The fire in your hate-filled eyes is robbing you
of any comprehension of what was written.

Nope. Just noting that you're trying to "diss" Amateurs again.

NOBODY was "bragging" about PLLs or DDSs...just pointing out
that they exist. The PLL was first innovated in France in
1932. The ball-point pen was innovated in Hungary in the
1930s. You don't see any connection chronologically?
No, you can't...you are WAY too busy trying trying to trash
those who won't agree with you.

It's not about agreeing or disagreeing.

It's about assuming responsiblity for the proper operation of your
radio station and not surrendering your obligations to technology.

NASA has a rather large PR department, adjacent to a large
"technology licensing" department, all of which is intended
to help support NASA operations' budgets. Their PR is on a
higher level than the ARRL's PR, but both tend to generate
a considerable number of MYTHS in their respective areas.

NASA pays people to write "MYTHS"...???

Again, you FAIL in reading comprehension...but, what the hell,
you've probably never read "NASA Technology Review" issues,
either.

No, I don't.

But I ALSO know I've never read any "myths" from any of the NASA
originated texts that I have read.

You'll please provide some readily verifyable reference to ONE
"myth" that you suggest that NASA has promulgated...?!?!

NASA Public Relations TAILORS and CRAFTS their words very
carefully...as ALL good marketing types do. They can CREATE
the IMPRESSION of things in their favor...as what ALL good
marketting types do. All they have to do is some word
re-arranging and some convenient OMISSION of certain things
and those who read/listen/view what they are talking about
will do the "myth creation" for them. Examples:

"Ball point pen invented by NASA." Not so...it was invented
before NASA existed.

Where was this written? What NASA source released it?

"TANG" (the breakfast drink) came out of NASA as a drink for
astronauts. Not so...it was invented for consumer use and to
make money.

Where was this written? What NASA source released it?

"Velcro was invented by NASA" to hold things in place in
zero gravity. Not so. It's obvious that it does so but the
invention was for the clothing industry.

Where was this written? What NASA source released it?

"Teflon was invented by NASA" to withstand the rigors of
spaceflight, etc. Not so. Fluoroethylene chemistry came
out of needs of the Manhattan Project to use in extracting
uranium and plutonium...which was later commercialized by
DuPont as a polymer.

Where was this written? What NASA source released it?

At one time or another I've read about these various products and
some affiliation with NASA, but never as a product OF NASA research or
manufacture.

ALL of those common myths are further reinforced by the
everyday journalists and news editors who simply take news
copy and "run with it" in their media.

That is the fault of the media that "runs" with it.

Not NASA.

Everyone sees it in
print (real ink on real paper) or sees it on TV (TV never
lies in its news)...and they accept it as "fact."

Geeze...I've never ONCE seen any of those stories as you relate
them.

Maybe they are so fresh to you since you're the one generating
them?

For an example of cross-pollination of myths, the "space
amateur radio" carried on by space station and (previous)
shuttle astronauts is done almost entirely by no-code-test
Technician class licensed astronauts. It is part of their
overall task assignment (every astronaut must adhere to
NASA PR rules) and relatively minor in relation to all that
they must do. Contrary to the fantasy of some, astronauts
did not become hams first, THEN astronauts.

Some of them certainly do. Witness Owen Garriot, W5LFL. The
FIRST Amateur-Astronaut to operate from the Space Shuttle.

Believe at least one thing: There's NO such thing as an
AMATEUR astronaut...(SNIP)

Huge Snip of 21 lines of tap-dancing to avoid the fact that you
were once again proven wrong.

But there ARE Astronauts who are licensed Amateur Radio operators
who WERE licensed Amateur Radio operators BEFORE they were designated
"Astronauts".

I know that facts aren't your forte, Lennie...Sorry to bust your
rant.

The ONLY thing YOU "busted" was - once again - that you don't
know dink of what you talk about. You are a poseur, a fraud,
trying to make yourself look like somebody "important" when
you don't know dink, haven't done dink in space OR aeronautics.

Neither have you judging by the above failed story lines, Lennie.

Quit trying to read the ARRL "news" bulletins as if they are
the primo word on "radio." That will help you overcome your
quite-obvious IGNORANCE. Maybe. I don't have optimism that
you can...

The only one ignorant of AMATEUR Radio here, Lennie, is you.

You made yet another attempt to make an end-run around facts and
got tripped up by the truth.

[Life Member of IEEE, as is Dr. Garriott]

Amazing what the right amount of cash can buy these days.

Steve, K4YZ