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Old July 26th 05, 01:12 AM
 
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From: "K4YZ" on Sun 24 Jul 2005 23:45

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From: "K4YZ" on Sun 24 Jul 2005 05:53
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From: Leo on Jul 23, 11:23 am

While the ubiquitous ball-point pen is used for making notes
in ham "logs," the precise frequencies noted down are kept
accurate by the PLL or DDS in modern amateur transceivers.

Nope.


What do you mean "nope," opie?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

What you use then, big PCTA extra of the Double Standard, a
couple crates of crystals?!?!?


Nope...Common sense, a signal generator and a spectrum analyzer.


BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

Idjit. Frequency is measured with a FREQUENCY COUNTER.

The precise frequencies are "kept" by the station licensee who
ensures that his or her station is kept in good operating order.


Yeah, riiiight...the extra can do "laying on of hands" and
instantly tell (by magic of some kind of telepathy) what
frequency he is tuned to....


Nope.

But I don't depend on that digital display to be 100% accurate.

The FCC says "be sure", and I do.


What, you said "I do" and MARRIED the digital display?!?!?

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

TweeedleDUMB, the "display" doesn't do the measuring. Inside
your rig is a microcontroller doing a FREQUENCY COUNT. All
the display does is present its count state to something
humans can read. That internal FREQUENCY COUNTER is accurate
to its internal TIME BASE and that is calibrated against an
external standard (WWV for some rigs or another calibrated
frequency standard for other rigs). It's in the instructions
for your plug-and-play HF machine...just about ALL of those
HF machines work the same way.

There are OTHER ways to insure frequency calibration...but
you still don't know dink about how to do it other than the
trying-to-avoid-looking-stoopid "be sure" remark.

The ONLY spectrum analyzers that could possibly do the
calibration cost as much as the list price of a new auto.
Your "disability check" from ripping off the U.S. govt.
ain't gonna cover that. The same with a synthesizer-
controlled signal generator having a very low PPM rating
(Agilent makes some)...costing much much more than you
can afford.

FREQUENCY COUNTER, boy, FREQUENCY COUNTER. One with greater
accuracy in its time base than what is in your HF machine.

It is additionally noted that Leonard H Anderson had nothing to do
with the creation for the aforementioned PLL or DDS that he's
attempting to brag on.


Tsk, tsk. The fire in your hate-filled eyes is robbing you
of any comprehension of what was written.


Nope. Just noting that you're trying to "diss" Amateurs again.


Awwwww...letting your EGO run riot in being the sovereign
representative of ALL U.S. amateur radio again?!?!?

I am "dissing" ONE person...dumbfork Stebie of the emotion
machine. You don't know dink about metrology, can't even
describe how you check calibration of your rig's internal
frequency counter!

It's about assuming responsiblity for the proper operation of your
radio station and not surrendering your obligations to technology.


What in the HELL are you mumbling about? [have you gone nuts?]

Radio IS technology, tweedleDUMB.

By LAW you MUST stay INSIDE the allocated band edges.

Hello? Did you think that "will and idea" or some idiot
non-specific emotional pep talk is going to keep your
frequencies INSIDE the ham bands?

"...not surrendering your obligations to technology."
Geeee-susss! Think about what a dumbfork thing you wrote!
You sound like you've mounted a lecturn but forgot to
light your mental lantern. The light ain't come on yet.

Staying WITHIN the band edges IS "proper operation."
The ONLY way you CAN stay within (and be LEGAL) is to
USE TECHNOLOGY!

giving up trying to explain radio to dumbfork stebie

dit dah