K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
cut to the chase
You like none of it and so launch your personal attacks.

I consider YOUR "attacks" (mistruths, deceit, etc) about Amateur
Radio to be an "attack" on me. removing the non operative sentence

clear sign of mental Illness Stevie boy.

Nope.

yes it is
break

Whelp, here again we have a lay person making a diagnosis.

sure I can recoze metal illnesswhen I see it


Where's your medical license, DreckieBoy?

I have the same license to pratice that sort of medicne as you do
Nursie


Clear sign that I have things that mean a lot to me, Amateur Radio
being one of them.

clearly mental that you view a dissgreement over the ARS as an attack
on yourself

When that comment clearly is disparging upon Amateurs as a whole,
yes.

agreeing that you clearly mental

I havn't seen such an attack yet from lenn or BB or todd and certainly
haven't made one myself

clearly mental that you view a disagreement over the ARS as an attack
on it

What was that supposed to say in English?

read it and find out


Markie Censored Sentence Replaced.

You make disparaging, untrue statements about Amateur Radio and expect it to be blown off.

Sorry.

Don't know what made Markie think that was "non operative"...

becuase it had nothing to do with the point being made

Sure it did.

nope another lie on your part


You just didn't want to have to comment on it since it underminds
your rants.

doesn't at all has nothing to do with what I was saying

Indeed it does reinforce my opinion that you are a raving paranoid

cuting stevie inabilty to correctly id my gender


it had nothing to do with the point

You mean it had nothing to do with YOUR point...

exactly which is what I said


You are NOT Amateur Radio

I AM part an parcel of it, though...just like you.

which means that I , BB and Todd have to right to express opinions
about it, to disgree with you and hold differeing points of view, but
anything you disagree with becomes an attack on the ARS and on You,
that is paranoia, and/or meglomania

An opinion is one thing.

Blatant lies and falsehoods are another.

no Lies or Falsehoods have been presented just points of view that you
find unsettling for some reason


I am not "America" either, yet when America was threatened in my
day, I came to it's service. I serve it still. As I come to the
"defense" of Amateur Radio when I perceive it as having been sleighted
with inappropriate innuendo or out-and-out mistruths and deceit.

which mean you are reacting in paraniod fashion to the fact that Other
folks have a different philosical point of view

Please provide reference to your mental health credentials.

mine are as good as yours


And please tell us allllllllllllllllll about your "philosophical"
credentials while you're at it...Which school of philosophy did you
attend?

I don't give out anything you could use to trace me But I attended many
classes in Philosophy as did most real undergrads, and unlike many of
them I did in fact absorb something

You are the one so obsessed with paper, not I



I will use coments from recent ARES posts as an example

OK...Where are they?

You didn't cite a single ARES, ARRL, OR FCC comment anywhere in
this post, Markie...

lair
as follows

I say the PR around ARES is overblown, that does not mean I am
attacking ARES as useless, merely that it's PR is over blown, and with
good reason by the ARRL the FCC and the served agencies, that merely a
less stiring endorsement of ARES than you seem to want

The "stiring" endorsements were NOT from the ARRL or FCC. They
were from the served agencies.

and the reference to those served agencies was present in my comments


Who knows better than the agency served what the quality and
character of the service they received was, Mrkie?

any objective observer does

You are opperating on the assumtion that they are being truthful, where
I never trust much of what anybody says

From their coments one can infer that the served agencies receievd
something of value to them, and that they wish to continue doing so,
nothing more can be counted on


Are you suggesting that you, Lennie, Toiddie or Brain are more
qualified to state what the character of any service rendered to any
agency on any particular date or event is...?!?!

not at all merely that we are able to releize that they are buttering
us up in order to see that we show up the next time too

No one likes to look critcaly at what may not have worked well

Indeed your reaction to the suggestion that the served agnecies may not
be as pleased with us as they say show they have a good reason NOT to
be at all critcal of the quality of the help they get

cutting a snide and completely irelavant coment

Myself, BB, and Lenn have different levels of opinion on the roles of
ARES and the nature of the PR yet you lump us all together as attacking
ARES

But you do. If you, Brainless and Lennie DO 'attack' the ARES,
then I am not the one "lump(ing you) all together"...that's you
jumping right on in...

I have never attacked ARES, not once. I have always adknowled their
positive role, just disagreed that it is as big as the PR states. I
have not observed Brain doing so either. Lenn has been careless enough
in his bombast to attack the management of ARES and the PR around it
but doesn't address one way or the other wether ARES helps anyone, but
Lenn is of course in the porrest postition of the 3 of us to judge that

it is not "inappropriate innuendo" to try and get around this spin to
look for the turth, but to you no one may challenge the spin, and there
is ALWAYS spin in America today

What spin?

that the claimed made for ARES are inflated of course they are it is
only human nature


Just because YOU lie about almost everything you talk about does
NOT mean that everyone else does.

all politicains lies the head of of the Red Cross et al are esscaily
politicains Look at Libby Dole for example President of the red cross
then would be president of the US

that you are too brainless to reconize the degree to which deceit is
part of Us life esp US public life


You clearly need to get a life

I have one. Amateur Radio is a big part of it.

Is it paranoia or meglomania?

or both

Neither. It's pride and respect.

no it one of the above or a willfull blindness to facts

Nope. Pride and respect.

Willful blindness to reality


the ARS can always be improved, that is a fact

Yep! Wanna help?

sure I try but folks like you are so wraped up in the myth that they
don't see the reality


the only way I see where that can happen is if we can discuss what
works well, not so well, not at all calmly and reasonably

I agree.

But we also DON'T need liars and deceivers involved in the
discussion.

but we do, we most esp need such people involved how else are we to
understand how to deal the political world

Just look at the code test issue and the results of your labour, By
choosing the right methods and appealing to what the FCC needs, and/or
threatening them where they don't care to fight we have won, while just
2 weeks before an ARRL rep was telling our club how certain the ARRL
was that no NPRM would come out this year and likely not the next


It is also a clear sign of your disconet with reality that you
preceieve any disagreement with your positions as an attack wether on
yourself or Amateur Radio

My what? "disconet"...?!?!

Markie, don't even pretend to know what you're talking about if

well i had such hope that you might start laying of the personal
attack, but you can't can you

cutiing stevie further gratuitous insults

There are no "gratuitous insults" there.

yes they are and were

they are your stock in trade


There's no "personal attack" to lay off of, Markie, unless you
were refering to YOUR comment "...It is also a clear sign of your
disconet with reality..."

your inablity to admit you are in fact attacking me almost consantly
certainly underminds anything you hope to achieve


You mean THAT personal attack..?!?! One that would suggest that
you are a licensed health care professional making a diagnosis?



Sheesh.

Steve, K4YZ