"David Robbins" wrote in message ...

I did read some of Kurokawas paper, and it IS a bit confusing.
Have you figured it out David?

Please tell us how the conjugate equation was derived.

Please explain where the fallacy of my logic lies for you.


Slick

it wasn't derived, it was defined. formula (1) defines the power waves.
formula (11) defines the 'power wave reflection coefficient' in terms of the
two waves in (1). it is then just algebra to rearrange the terms to get the
formula in (12).


Please show us if he correctly defines formula (1) and why. And i'd also
like to see if someone can derive these:

ai= (Vi+Zi*Ii)/(2*sqrt(Re(Zi))
bi= (Vi-conj(Zi)*Ii)/(2*sqrt(Re(Zi))

For what he calls the incident and reflected power waves.

And he does say that this is also the voltage RC when Zi is real and
positive.

And then he does square the MAGNITUDE of this, to get the Power RC.




i have given up on convincing any one on here that this equation can not be
applied to voltage and current waves on lossy lines. unfortunately it will
give the right answers but for the wrong reason on ideal lines. so go read
the paper, understand what he is doing, and realize that it is a different
domain than the 'classical' voltage and current waves that have been used
for many years and work just fine.


You are giving up because you don't understand the paper either.


Slick