Thread
:
Echos from the past, code a hinderence to a ticket
View Single Post
#
135
August 9th 05, 04:11 AM
Dave Heil
Posts: n/a
wrote:
From: John Smith on Sun 7 Aug 2005 23:42
Dave:
I don't agree with bush on a lot, but don't want to focus on running for
president either. Wasn't really happy with some teachers my son had, but
didn't want to go full-time academic either. I really don't like the way
the garbage men handle the trash, but refrain from that line of work also...
Really, make sense, drop the BS and out-right crap...
John
Another small history lesson on the newsgroup for you, John:
About 7 or 8 years ago, Obersturmbandsfuhrer Heil
Godwin invoked, Windy.
...stormed in
here making like the Authoritative Elmer of all Elmers,
spouting off about "CW" is way so much better than RTTY...
Ooops! There's your first falsehood, Mr. Carbon Obnoxide.
...and illustrating that with his saving-the-day actions from...
There's your second falsehood.
...Guinea-Bisseau in Africa for the Department of State, his
employer at the time (in the "foreign service").
It is "Foreign Service", Leonard.
That was in
the 1980s.
The time frame was late 1987 through late 1989.
He was then, as he is now, an Ultimate Authority
on HF...
That's your third falsehood. I've never claimed such.
...from his many many years as a ham (probably working a
minimum of 8 hours a day on his ham job)...
You are actually quite close to the truth in this statement. If you
count weekends, there are many weeks when I put in more hours at amateur
radio than I did at work, even if we include typical overtime. Did you
have a point to make? Are you jealous? Are you perplexed? Have you a
problem with how I spent my own time?
and waded into the
morse code testing arguments as Mister Morseman (a "foreign
service" counterpart to "Captain Code").
That makes falsehood number four. I've never posted as, nor signed any
posts as "Mister Morseman" or any similar moniker.
Unfamiliar with this country of Guinea-Bisseau, I had to look
it up. Found out it was NOT a prosperous country and that its
chief export was cashew nuts.
I can understand your unfamiliarity with the country. Why not admit
that you are unfamiliar with just about any African country?
I stated that and Heil got very
angry.
There's falsehood number five.
[he was a "key employee" or something at State as a
"communications officer"...blah blah blah]
Oh, that part came much, much later, Leonard. You actually made a
statement saying that I was never a key employee at any embassy. I
produced urls for several years of the U.S. Department of State's "Key
Officers of Foreign Service Posts" listings. My name and job title
appeared in each. You quickly dismissed the lists as some sort of a
telephone listing (even though telephone numbers did not appear with the
names listed). You ate large quantities of crow.
How dare *I*
question ANY statements of Heil's! :-)
Heil got ****ed and a half when I recounted the HF comms done
by the U.S. Army of the 1950s...using mainly RTTY and TTY over
(commercial format) SSB...NOT encountering these "bad
conditions" where "only 'CW' would get through" (and saving-
the-day).
Here we have your falsehood number six. I was not even ****ed, much
less "****ed and a half". You vastly overestimate your ability to
motivate. I wrote nothing about CW saving the day.
Heil tried to make the argument that "CW" was
"necessary" and all that old snit.
The use of CW was necessary and mandated.
Heil stated that "my
station" (taxpayer owned, actually) "NEVER WORKED 24/7!"
There's your seventh falsehood. I stated that *you*, Leonard H.
Anderson, never worked 24/7. You'd claimed that you had.
Tsk,
four operating teams very certainly worked the 3rd largest
Army station in ACAN-STARCOM then, using about 40 transmitters
shooting across the Pacific south-east-west from Tokyo, all
around the clock. NO "CW" (manual morse code) used by my
battalion that served the Headquarters for the Far East Command
then...none later...all on HF.
Bully for you, Leonard! Bully!
Heil committed some small gaffes in his rationalizations on
what he wrote...specifically that the "CW" was needed to
"synchronize" the RTTY schedules.
Any TTY is automatically
self-synchronizeable, has been since before WW2 times.
TTY is "self-synchronizable" (did you mean synchronizing?) but schedules
are not.
Heil
then "explained" that "synchronizing" meant schedule times
and so forth. Odd that such wouldn't have been worked out
beforehand in operating orders, common to everyone else.
One may issue orders and make demands. Propagation doesn't seem bound
to comply.
Heil got most disturbed on my descriptions of the Army net
being BIGGER than what State had (it was) and said...
Wrong! That's falsehood number eight. I never cared what the Army net
had and did not dispute its size.
"I didn't
know anything about what State's radio had/did."
....and the fact is that you didn't and don't know anything about the
Department of State's communications methods or abilities.
Tsk, I
did and already possessed a great deal of documentation
obtained from Army sources and a few items of contractors
supplying the U.S. government (the RCA "RACES" mass
memory on mag cards, two of which were installed in DC at
State's headquarters).
None of those were any longer used at State by the mid-1980s.
Heil did not realize that some of
the Department of State messages were actually carried on
Army and Air Force communications circuits...
None of the Department of State's record traffic is carried by either
Army or Air Force circuits.
...more in
Europe than in Asia.
None in Europe or in Asia.
[I can identify the stations, the
TTY ID, paths, and controlling hubs on all of ACAN-STARCOM
from publicly-released information available before 1980,
stuff that I have, obtained from a civilian engineer
acquaintence who worked at "my" Army station]
Before 1980? Why don't you just do another recounting of your RTTY
experience at ADA in the early 1950's?
Heil engages in a lot of Gamesmanship in here, frequently
citing his many State assignments (Finland, several
countries in Africa).
Frequently? Not at all, Leonard. Your retellings of your single ADA
experience in Japan have to outnumber any postings I've made about State
Department postings by six or eight to one. Those experiences of yours
date back more than a half century.
He WAS DX to a lot of other hams,
courtesy of the U.S. government...
Courtesy of the U.S. government? Excuse me, that's your ninth
falsehood. The U.S. government did not purchase any of my radio
equipment, make any amateur radio QSOs or subsidize my time spent on the
air as a radio amateur.
and complementary callsigns
given to "diplomatic" personnel of the USA.
Your tenth falsehood appears above. I paid the going license fee at
each post and requested a license under reciprocal agreements the host
country had with the United States. No special agreements exist for
those in diplomatic status.
Problem is,
Department of State radio is rather smaller than the U.S.
military networks and the retirees from State's radio are
a tiny percentage of "radio operators." Now the military
networks' former members are also a small percentage...but
they are larger than civil government "radio operators."
Nobody retires from State's "radio". Those in communications were
"Support Communications Officers", now "Information Mangagement
Specialists". They handle not only HF radio circuits, but satellite and
leased-line circuits. They are responsible for stand-alone PCs,
unclassified and classified LAN's, embassy telephones, HF E&E radios,
post VHF/UHF repeaters, handheld and mobile radios, secure telephones,
and classified pouch. They also supervise the embassy receptionists and
the mailroom staff. Those with HF radio expertise, listed as "CPO
(Communications Programs Officer) or IPO (Information Programs
Officer)-Radio" are an even tinier percentage of all of the Department
of State's communications/information management employees.
The more vocal hams with previous military radio
experience seem to come from the USN and those mostly from
ship "radio room" assignments.
The more vocal? Are the folks with Army, Marine, Air Force and Coast
Guard experience just quieter by nature?
Heil seems to be banking
on his Department of State experience being rare, thus he
can bull**** his way into posing as a Great Authority on
What The Government Does In Radio among amateur radio
hobbyists.
"Heil" knows that his Department of State experience is rare and there's
no posing is necessary. You made a statement about government not using
Morse. I corrected you. I knew something which was unknown to you.
Deal with it.
Heil shows no sign of having worked IN the
larger military radio communications networks during his
military service...yet he implies knowing all about them.
"Heil" has shown numerous "signs". "Heil" was in the U.S. Air Force for
four years and worked as a radio operator. "Heil" served in Vietnam as
a U.S. Air Force radio operator. Heil wasn't some maintenance type,
leaning on an equipment rack.
He knows little and all he can do is the BS implication
that he does.
You really should write that it is your guess that I know little and
that it is your guess that "all he can do..." There are quite a number
of regular posters here whose time as professional communications types
exceeds your own by several magnitudes. If you add their amateur radio
experience, you're left in the dust. Deal with it.
A shock to Heil must have been my appearance in here, an
unlicensed-in-amateur-radio person who is no shrinking
violet on opinions!
Not exactly, Len. What shocked me was your pompous and condescending
manner toward radio amateurs. You're right about your not being a
shrinking violet on opinions. You have one whether you know what you're
talking about or not. If no one pays attention to them, you restate
them time after time in hopes of being noticed. Well, you've been
noticed. You're still on the sidelines of amateur radio.
Even worse, one who HAS documentary
proof to counter most of the total bull**** spouted by
this great "radio expert." [three such documents posted
on
http://kauko.hallikainen.org/history/equipment]
Just what is this documentary proof supposed to be, Leonard--that you
were somewhere in uniform in the early 1950's? I've never denied that.
I just don't know why I'm supposed to be impressed and I don't know how
it is supposed to relate to amateur radio.
Perhaps
he was disturbed that I didn't polish the boots of his
surplus Wehrmacht costume from Western Casting? Could be.
Godwin x 2.
Heil, like Robeson, vents a lot of anger in here, always
trying to verbally thrash his "opponents" on a personal
basis. SUBJECT be damned, he wants to "fight" on a one-
to-one basis anyone who speaks against his opinions.
You've pretty well described your own behavior. N2EY even did a
finely-crafted profile of your likely response to any poster who
disagrees with you. Would you like to see it again?
In the last half year Heil has whittled a schtick about
my "not being a participant in ham radio" etc. and thinks
that is some kind of psywar "weapon." It isn't.
No, it isn't some kind of psywar weapon. It is plain fact and I've
brought up up for nearly eight years. You aren't a participant in
amateur radio, despite your boast of several years back that you were
going for an "Extra right out of the box".
Contrary
to Fearless Leader's instruction-commands, I didn't get a
ham license FIRST "to show an interest in radio."
You didn't get into amateur radio first, last or in between.
The
Army provided the opportunity to INCREASE my interest in
radio (since 1947 along with lots of other interests) and
I "disobeyed orders" by getting a Commercial First Phone
in 1956 and then became an electronics design engineer.
No, no, no, that was NOT the Order Of The Day...I should
have dutifully learned morsemanship to become an amateur
first according to Fearless Leader Heil. Screum.
I disagree. I don't care whether you obtain an amateur radio license at
all. If you choose to sit on the sidelines for the few years you have
remaining, it bothers me not. What I won't put up with, is your endless
sniping.
Dave K8MN
Reply With Quote