On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 10:20:31 -0500, Cecil Moore
wrote:

Like I said, they cannot be created without energy. They can however
exist without conveying energy from one place to another.
^^^^^^^^^
It's not really fair to the readers to use a word in an obscure
way and refuse to define it.

What's sauce for goose must be **** for the gander.

Since you haven't presented your
esoteric definition for "convey", and it is not in the IEEE
Dictionary

Truly English is a dead language here. There is more effort expended
in trying to find the Rosetta stone for its interpretation than the
performance of bench work or simple computation.