On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 17:12:26 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

Ted:

Change is usually non-conformity, and may seem chaotic to those stuck in a
rut...

John

I fail to see what all of the current "non-conformists" are trying to
change. It's like they're so obsessed with insults that they've
forgotten what the original debate was about.