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From: "Dan/W4NTI" on Wed, Aug 17 2005 3:47 pm

Lots of garbage deleted.........

Tsk, tsk, tsk... :-)


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But, something ELSE operative here. Note: Your CO gave you
permission to operate. On another thread in here, some time
ago, Brian Burke was given permission by HIS CO to operate
amateur radio from a foreign land. Now all the JAG-wannabes
in here (PCTAs all) jumped all over Brian's case on that,
citing absolutely NOTHING germane, one (a "seven-hostile-action"
hero) even implying that the UCMJ didn't apply, only the FCC
regulations applied (they don't but the shell-shocked murine
didn't understand that).

Under the terms of the Kangaroo Kourt of the PCTAs:

If Brian Burke is guilty of improper amateur radio operation,
then Dan Jeswald is EQUALLY GUILTY of doing so from Germany.

If Dan Jeswald is not guilty, then Brian Burke is not guilty.

It's the SAME SORT of "OFFENSE" as codified by the PCTA.

Offense? By operating under my legal German callsign of DA2LJ, based on
my
just as legal US Callsign, both based on the "Status of Forces" agreement
in place at the time does NOT constitute ANY SORT OF OFFENSE.

Dannie boy, you didn't see the big brouhaha in here on Brian
making a single comment about doing amateur ops from Somalia
and ALL the resident PCTAs in here jumping on his case? All
of those PCTA extras were ready to give Brian a necktie party
for that "offense" which all of them ruled on...


Oh yeah, now I know what your talking about. Well Lennie operation out of a
foreign country does require that countries approval. I had German
approval. So what is your problem?

Under my German Amateur Radio License I had FULL Privlidges any German
National had. That included VHF on 2m FM withing the confines of the
Federal Republic of Germany.

So...how do you relate that to the UCMJ that required you to
abide by Army regulations? Remember that you described using
your amateur HT "while standing on a command track." That
indicates you were in the field, on a field exercise for the
United States Army. United States of America. NOT the
Federal Republic of Germany ("west Germany" in 1972).


Operating a amateur radio does not come under the Uniformed Code of Military
Justice Lennie, it is controlled by the Gernam Post Office to be exact,
under the Status of Forces agreement the US had with Germany at that time.

You are spinning off on a dead end tanget Lennie.

To whom did you owe the greater loyalty to? Ham radio? The
FRG? Or to the United States of America?


My loyalties have NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with operating my ham radio
anywhere or anytime.

Again Lennie, its a a dead end and I'm not falling for it.


Was this ham HT purchased by yourself or was it given to you
by the U.S. Army?

It was a CIVILIAN RADIO LENNIE, CIVILIAN IS NOT MILITARY, GOT IT
NOW????????

And No the U.S. Army didn't GIVE it to me. It NEVER BELONGED TO the U.S.
Army......GOT THAT NOW LENNIE????

Tsk, tsk...you are getting all upset. Relax. All that is
in question is suspicion of Treason against the United States
of America...it's not like the more important issue of the
retention of the morse code test for amateurs, is it?

Damn....he FINALLY got around to bring Morse Code testing into the
arguement. You are like a open book Lennie.


I don't know "why," Dannie...that's what MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
("M.I.") might want to know in interests of U.S. national
security. You certainly had OPPORTUNITY. You now display
considerable emotional volatility. I don't know your political
mindset...other than what appears in here as a staunch
conservative.

All of the above can be a COVER. :-)

Cover for what dip****? Having a Amateur Radio QSO from a field location
while in the U.S. Army in Germany?

M.I. would ask that sort of question, not me.

Tell ya what......if you think I did such a comsec violation, call up the
flippin FBI and report me. Do it you piece of crap.

Tsk, tsk, you are getting all UPSET again. Relax.

I might have called the FBI, might not. Actually, I'd call the
Military Intelligence folks first, then maybe U.S. Army JAG.
Notifying the FBI first would be the proper sequence, though,
since my Honorable Army service was over in mid-1960...I'm a
civilian, a citizen of the United States of America.


No reason to Lennie. I was perfectly legal by both German and US
Military
rules and regulations.

Colonel Rudolph Abel, KGB, was living in NYC, being "perfectly legal
to outward appearances," posing as an artist who had "ham radio for
a hobby." Only thing was that he was NOT "perfectly legal" after
an investigation. He was arrested, tried, convicted...later exchanged
for U-2 spy plane pilot Francis Gary Powers.

So call the FBI blowhard.

The FBI already knows about Rudolph Abel...it's taught at the
FBI Academy in Quantico, VA.

Nothing else worth commenting on. Think I'll go find something useful to
do, like enjoy my ham radio. Sure beats talking to this moron.

Enjoy your ham radio...but avoid mentioning anything that
might violate the security of the United States of America.

Oh, and destroy any one-time pads you may have lying around.
Such an item is immediately spotted by investigators. Try
not to look too nervous when they come to your door.


FBI CIA



Hey Lennie the loser....I'm shaking in my boots. All you were was a broom
pushing tube puller. That once in a while pushed a button or two.

Take your best shot idiot.

Dan/W4NTI