From: K4YZ on Aug 22, 7:35 am

Frank Gilliland wrote:

Add that to language in your posts that sounds hauntingly like
Lennie Anderson and I'd say your accusations of fraud belong in your
own lap.

And all your ranting has done nothing to resolve the topic of this
discussion. If you can think of anything that would make me believe
that you were in the USMC then feel free to speak up. Otherwise, it
looks like you are just stalling -- making excuses, obfuscating,
changing topics -- in hopes that I'll give up and leave.

Oh no, don't leave, "Frank"...

It just makes the LennieRants more colorful.

Lesssee...You claim I've given you nothing but vague information,
yet you refuse to e mail me directly and get "the details"...

So far we've got NOTHING but vagueness.

Must be a lot of that vagueness stuff going around...

Furthermore, I've given you MORE than enough to verify my duty
without giving you my SSAN to do it with.

"SSAN?" :-)

"Lesssee"...You claim that you were "in seven hostile actions."
Tsk, we don't know the Where or When of your involvement.

"Lesssee"...You claim to have been an "avionics tech" yet
you've been UNABLE to mention a single piece of aviation
electronics by nomenclature or familiar name. [were you
"brain-wiped" on leaving the Corps?]

"Lesssee"...You've NOT mentioned a single name of a "bud" or
Corps comrade who can be reached for independent verification
of your Corps existance...after 18 years of service you have
NO friends or references? [that's cause for alarm to everyone
right there]

You demonstrate lapses in proper USMC etiquette yet try and "dis"
my service just because I won't do a LennieRant and give a complete CV
of my service here.

"...proper USMC etiquette...?"

[did your mess tables have little doilies and place settings? :-) ]

Tsk, Stebie had better look up "curriculum vitae" in his Latin
dictionary. Those of us who WORKED FOR A LIVING in the radio-
electronics industry called it a "resume" (pronouce it "resz-
u-may") and, lo and behold, so did the Human Resources folks
(fancy new name for Personnel Departments)!

You were in an AAV unit so of course you know
EVERYONE who ever served, including a guy who's service ended 13 years
ago.

Don't YOU? :-)

Tsk, back a few years in here, I made a humorous mention of "Street
Road" going through Bucks County, PA. A big Flame War erupted
about my being at Naval Air Development Center in Warminster, PA
(as a field engineer for my employer, RCA Corporation, specifically
on air tests of an R&D collision-avoidance system). I was there in
the winter of '71-'72 for three months plus three other short trips
there in '72. At NO time did I ever "seek employment" there or
"work for the USN" at any time (I worked for a private corporation).
YOU said "you knew several" there that were "your buds" who aid I
"wasn't a good employee" or words to that effect. That was a
fabrication but you did not yield ANY details about me or your
"buds" or even where I was working (the Warminster NAS or Naval
Air Station, a one-runway field was bisected by a road separating
it from the NADC main building...I was mainly in the main building).

Later on, in here, you brought out some UNNAMED "now-PhD" who
"knew me" back then and said "I was not a good employee [of the
Navy]." You kept insisting that unnamed person was "real" yet
you "were obliged to keep his identity secret." That's ten kinds
of BS crock, Stebie. In the short three months bisected by year-
end Holidays, I worked directly with only 3 civilian employees of
the USN, was NEVER a USN employee, always had a Visitor badge worn
in addition to my RCA badge, met some of the pilots and aircrew
(enlisted all USN, one civilian pilot, three USN commission pilots),
and assorted USN and civilian NADC and NAS workers. The three
civilians I worked with directly all retired long ago but here
are their initials: S O B M J R - all you have to do is get them
in pairs to think up their names...and then NAME the NADC section
I was visiting for this R&D program's flight test for the U.S.
government, NOT specifically for Navy development. While you are
at it, you have to name the OTHER private corporation who ALSO
had their anti-collision system flight tested there also for the
U.S. government, not for Navy development. Feel free to name
the USN aircraft used in those flight tests if you wish...I was
in ALL of them.

You CANNOT complete any of those requirements, Stebie, because
- if you were really assigned to Warminster NAS - you were there
TEN YEARS AFTERWARDS when the NADC main building was shutting down
and projects there moved elsewhere. NADC is long GONE now and
perhaps the NAS is also (I don't really care). I was NEVER trying
for any Navy civilian employment position there just as I NEVER
tried to do so at China Lake or Point Mugu or Key West NAS or
Patuxent River (MD) Test Range ("Pax River"). You kept saying I
was either a "Navy employee" or "tried to get a job there", neither
of which was true.

Now YOU NAME this "now-PhD who knew me" back 33 1/2 years ago or
admit it was all a weird FABRICATION of yours. Your choice.
You haven't given detail One on this fabricated individual other
than glossed-over generalities and dire implications.

Tsk, you've "accused" Frank Gilliland of "making things up" yet
that is what YOU have been doing for years in here!

oop now