From: Frank Gilliland on Aug 22, 7:44 pm

On 22 Aug 2005 07:51:25 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 21 Aug 2005 16:28:13 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in



I know who Col Vinson was and I know where Ft Gordon is. Never
served with him/for him/within 100 miles of him.

And here is where your lies finally come to an end. If -you- were in
avionics in the 80's then you most certainly -DID- 'serve' under
"Colonel Vinson"...... who, BTW, is not a real person, and you would
have known that if your story was true. VINSON was the crypto system
that was used for almost all radio equipment in that era, and EVERY
tech -- avionics AND ground -- was trained to do first and second
echelon repairs on that equipment. You could have easily replied with
"KY-58" (the avionics equivalent of the KY-57), or KYK-13 (key holder
used for both). But you didn't even recognize the name VINSON even in
context with Ft. Gordon, home of the crypto schools.

You had several chances, "Steve"..... you flunked.

Flunked badly enough to be terminated without prejudice.

I loved that "Colonel Vinson" sentence of yours and was getting
tired waiting for Stebie's bluffing reply to show up. :-)
Stebie was bluffing along, trying to take advantage of so very
few in here knowing anything about military electronics or
practices.

He's failed to respond to "KIR" and "KIT" that I mentioned a few
years ago...apparently NOT knowing that they set the codes for
the common IFF transponder on nearly all military aircraft.

And BTW, the info above isn't much of a secret since Time magazine put
a picture of a KY-57 on the front cover back in '83 -- nice pic of a
Beirut Marine next to a jeep with a VRC-12.

VERY little of the outside of those "K" boxes have been "secret"
nor have the names. Some of the insides are, obviously, but
not names or contract numbers for production nor contract monies
for those contracts. All public knowledge.

Back around 1996 (?) the Army released for PUBLIC DISSEMINATION
the "catalog" of land-forces Signal equipment, FM 24-24. It is
open for public viewing at the Army's Training and Doctrine
Command Digital Library. At least two ham websites have links
to those PDF chapters for free downloads. Nearly ALL signal
equipment is described in there with pictures and all that. :-)

Nowadays, though, COMSEC is being built-in such as in the SIP
version of SINCGARS ground-air transceivers and the new
AN/PRC-150 IHFR (Improved HF Radio) now under contract to Harris.
See AN/ARC-210 for the SIP (SINCGARS Improvement Program)
version of that for aircraft.

Again...colorful. Clancyesque.

You and fiction seem to get along quite well.

Stebie just doesn't know what he thinks he is talking about. :-)

He once tried to spew insults about my "not knowing civilian
avionics" (despite my having been IN that line of work) and
took to task my "faulty" description of civilian VOR. Never
mind that VOR (I consider elegant in simplicity for the tube
era) was conceived, tested, and found acceptible for the
international air community in the 1950s. Likewise, he
didn't speak out when I mentioned "Mode 4" for IFF transponders.

He just doesn't mention ANYTHING in regards to military radio-
electronics systems, no details, no names of any kind. At best
he once talked about two civilian radios supposedly at the
Okinawa MARS location where he claimed to be "Assistant NCOIC"
(as if they had so many that they needed "assistant" titles).

That you attempt to diminish my military service simply because I
do not wish to discuss it in this forum like Lennie's rantings, or like
some drunk at the end of the bar at 3AM only further substantiates MY
claim that your motives here have nothing to do with Amateur Radio,
have more to do with being argumenative, and are dubious at best.

Blah, blah, blah. You've been both outed and spanked. Either fess up
or shut up.

I predict Stebie will do neither. He can't admit to duplicity
(he is too deep now to have any chance of backing out) and he
doesn't ever admit to any wrongdoing (his duplicity depends on
him giving the impression he is always right).

If Stebie LIES about his military "radio experience" then it is
almost a sure bet he LIES about amateur radio experience.

What we CAN bank on is a series of personal insults directed at
his "opponents" that challenge him. Standard Operating Procedure.

lie SOP